Slitherine

Posted: **Thu Feb 14, 2013 8:01 am**

Justin,

Current teams here -> viewtopic.php?f=87&t=38844&p=383692#p383611
I've still got you as Acting Commander Allies, and not sure of status for Mowby?

Would you like one of your guys to step up to handle the strat stuff? With you & Mike to advise?
Or should we think about getting a German "turncoat" to swap?

GL88

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 12:53 am**

cavehobbit wrote:JCB, I had problems uploading my last turn and after several attempts I was asked to discard the turn. But in the Active games screen it looks just fine. Please report to me if you notice something that's not correct, apart from all those units of yours I've killed

/P-A

Everything seemed fine from my side, except for my exploding M16 unit

Posted: **Fri Feb 15, 2013 1:01 am**

GottaLove88s wrote:Justin,

Current teams here -> viewtopic.php?f=87&t=38844&p=383692#p383611
I've still got you as Acting Commander Allies, and not sure of status for Mowby?

Would you like one of your guys to step up to handle the strat stuff? With you & Mike to advise?
Or should we think about getting a German "turncoat" to swap?

GL88

Hi Jon,

I think I can handle June 9th orders, it would be good if I had some planning help from Mike if he wants/can do that, a draft for me to work with the boys.
I'd like to step down as supreme pizza allied commander for June 10th though, and just be someone's assistant commander/field officer. No word from Mowby for awhile, I think the real world might have gobbled him up?

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:52 am**

While waiting for Bayeux 2, this just in from the Met boys...

NEW WEATHER FORECAST

June 9th - Clear (fighter-bombers fly)
June 10th - Clear
June 11th - Cloudy (fighter-bombers grounded)
June 12th - Cloudy
June 13th - Clear

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:53 am**

jcb989 wrote:
cavehobbit wrote:JCB, I had problems uploading my last turn and after several attempts I was asked to discard the turn. But in the Active games screen it looks just fine. Please report to me if you notice something that's not correct, apart from all those units of yours I've killed

/P-A
Everything seemed fine from my side, except for my exploding M16 unit

Something to do with their revolutionary new design? And lithium batteries? Wouldn't fly in one myself...

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:10 am**

Quick reminder on supplies because it's becoming relevant for two BGs...

6AL/6 parachuted into Caen on June 7th... so now has only 1 further day of supplies for June 9th, unless an Allied supply route can be traced to it before June 10th
858/346 became isolated in Ouistreham on June 8th... so now has only 1 further day of supplies for June 9th, unless a German supply route can be traced to it before June 10th

GJS'44 Rulebook wrote:8. Supplies

8.1 The last unit passing through a sector gains control over that sector for its team.
8.11 Allied-liberated sectors are marked on the Strat Map with an RAF roundel.
8.12 All sectors are controlled by the German-side until they are liberated by the Allies.
8.13 Sectors retaken by the Germans lose their RAF roundel.
8.14 Sector control for each day is determined before that day's moves are made, ie. it will take one day to retake a sector (and to re-establish supply lines).

8.2 All units must be able to trace a continuous path of controlled sectors to a source of supplies.
8.21 German BGs receive 1 day of supplies from either Villers Bocage or Vimont, plus 1 day of supplies from Caen or Bayeux, provided that the supplying town is held by the Germans. ie. German BGs typically enjoy 2 days of supplies, until Caen and Bayeux are lost, then they receive only 1 day of supplies, until Vimont and Villers-Bocage are also lost, when German BGs will lose their access to new supplies.
8.22 New German BGs arrive in Villers-Bocage or Vimont fully supplied for 2 days.
8.23 Allied BGs receive 1 day of supplies from any of Gold, Juno or Sword beach, provided that the supplying sector is held by the Allies, plus an additional 1 day of supplies if all three of Gold, Juno and Sword beaches are held by the Allies. ie. Allied BGs typically have 1 day of supplies, until they gain control over all three of the main landing beaches, when the massive influx of materiel raises this to 2 days.
8.24 Beach landing Allied BGs, including commandos, arrive on the beach fully supplied for 1 day only.
8.25 Commandos parachuting inland carry sufficient supplies for 3 full days, including their date of arrival. Consequently, the Allies must establish a supply line to airborne commandos by day 4, or those BGs will suffer out of supply penalties.

8.3 Out of supply BGs suffer severe penalties.
8.31 The base morale for all units in an "out of supply" BG is reduced: by 50 for all infantry except volksgrenadiers, by 25 for volksgrenadiers and all other units.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:09 pm**

Can anyone explain this? When replaying jcb's last turn, suddenly I can see his Sherman shooting at a house. As you can see I have no units nearby.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:16 pm**

Hey Cavehobbit, If that game is not over, you might want to pull the graphic... Otherwise Jcb will know where you're not...

It's due to BA's normal game engine... BA shows players all enemy units that open fire, even if you have no units near enough to see them...
I assume it's due to BA designers' view that if a unit opens fire, soldiers should hear it and be able to identify it... However, BA is generous to show you exact type and facing direction too...

Therefore, caution advised when using suppression fire on enemy positions... If there are no units there, you're giving away your own movements...

How's Bayeux 2 going? The northeastern start and better matched unit mixes looked set for a fun fight... Should be a good one...

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:20 pm**

Jcb and I have negotiated a ceasefire as we've only firing mortar rounds and smoke rounds blindly the last few turns. I let him withdraw without further losses to Creully. Here's the casualties screen:

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:23 pm**

GottaLove88s wrote:Hey Cavehobbit, If that game is not over, you might want to pull the graphic... Otherwise Jcb will know where you're not...

It's due to BA's normal game engine... BA shows players all enemy units that open fire, even if you have no units near enough to see them...
I assume it's due to BA designers' view that if a unit opens fire, soldiers should hear it and be able to identify it... However, BA is generous to show you exact type and facing direction too...

Therefore, caution advised when using suppression fire on enemy positions... If there are no units there, you're giving away your own movements...

How's Bayeux 2 going? The northeastern start and better matched unit mixes looked set for a fun fight... Should be a good one...

Good to know, I've never seen this happen before.

As you see above we've decided to end the battle a bit earlier. Hope that's ok with you, Jon

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:41 pm**

cavehobbit wrote:Jcb and I have negotiated a ceasefire as we've only firing mortar rounds and smoke rounds blindly the last few turns. I let him withdraw without further losses to Creully. Here's the casualties screen:

Bayeux 2

Negotiated ceasefire, with above losses and 231/50 withdrawal to Creully approved.
Well done guys...

I have to say, Cavehobbit's "bad habit" of knocking out M5s and scouts makes it very difficult for his enemies to win...

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:46 pm**

Summarised Battle Results - June 8th AM & PM - FINAL

OUISTREHAM - German Victory
Allied (151/50) KIAs = 20+6 = 4x Inf, 2x Eng, 2x Scout, 1x Flamey, 3x Mortar, 3x Bren, 2x M16AA, 1x Cromwell, 2x Sherman (plus dissolution penalties 1x Inf, 1x HMG, 1x PIAT, 1x 17pdr, 1x 6pdr, 1x Bren)
German (858/346) KIAs = 8 = 2x Inf, 1x Eng, 3x Scout, 1x 251/1, 1x WirbelAA
151/50 is dissolved (due to all units lost in battle)

BAYEUX - German Victory
Allied (9/3) KIAs = 12 = 2x Inf, 2x HMG, 2x Scout, 1x PIAT, 1x Bren, 2x M16AA, 2x M5
German (II/744/711) KIAs = 3 = 1x Eng, 1x PzShrek, 1x 251/1
9/3 withdraws to Vaux sur Aure

CAEN - British Victory
Allied (6al/6) KIAs = 10 = 2x Eng, 2x Para, 2x Scout, 2x PIAT, 1x Flamey, 1x 17pdr
German (125/21Pz) KIAs = 18 = 1x Inf, 1x Eng, 2x HMG, 1x Scout, 1x Mortar, 1x 88, 1x 75Pak40, 2x 251/1, 1x Wirbel, 2x Marder, 3x StuG, 2x PzIV
125/21Pz withdraws to Bourguebus

BURON - German Victory
Allied (8/3cdn) KIAs = 14 = 4x Inf, 1x Eng, 2x Bren, 2x M16AA, 1x M5, 1x Cromwell, 3x Sherman
German (II/736/716) KIAs = 5 = 2x Inf, 1PzShrek, 1x 75Pak40, 1x 251/1
8/3cdn withdraws to Tailleville

BAYEUX 2 - German Victory
Allied (231/50) KIAs = 8 = 2x Inf, 2x Scout, 1x Bren, 1x M16AA, 2x M5
German (II/744/711) KIAs = 2 = 1x VG, 1x Inf
231/50 withdraws to Creully under terms of negotiated ceasefire

GottaLove88s wrote:Here's what we're looking at for June 8th...

OUISTREHAM - GERMAN VICTORY - Joncorcuera (858/346 defending) v K9mike (151/50 attacking)
BAYEUX - GERMAN VICTORY - Cavehobbit (II/744/711 defending) v Jcb989 (9/3 attacking)
CAEN - BRITISH VICTORY - iProp (6al/6) defending v Morge4 (125/21Pz attacking)
BURON - GERMAN VICTORY - Mlazar (II/736/716 defending) v Random27 (8/3cdn attacking)

4x CONFIRMED BATTLES - June 8th AM

Battle maps will approximate what you see on the Strat Map, but I've provided short descriptions below to help you with force selection...

OUISTREHAM - 151/50 (inf) [NTMRS] attacks fortified defence (AFD) v 858/346 (inf) [AFMRPS] - attacker arrives from W
Enormous fortified beach with many defences positioned towards the sea. Some woods, estuary and marshes. A small town at the eastern edge

CAEN - 125/21Pz (mech) [APS] attacks fortified defence (AFD) v 6al/6 (para) [ATMRS] - attacker arrives from SE
Regional capital city with a castle fortress controlling river crossings. A busy port, cathedral, warehouses and university districts. Urban extreme.

BAYEUX - 9/3 (mech) [AMRS] attacks fortified defence (AFD) v II/744/711 (VG inf) [PS] - attacker arrives from N
Historic town, dominated by river, cathedral and a fortified town hall. Fields to the south and west.

BURON - 8/3cdn (mech) [S] attacks fortified defence (AFD) v II/736/716 (VG inf) [MPS] - attacker arrives from NW
Mostly fields and hedgerow, some small woods, several roads through the centre. Opposing forces are divided by a river towards the west.

1x AFTERNOON BATTLE - June 8th PM (because defender won on June 8th AM)

BAYEUX 231/50 (mech) [S] attacks fortified defence (AFD) v II/744/711 (VG inf) [PS] - attacker arrives from NE
Historic town, dominated by river, cathedral and fortified town hall

Bonuses in square brackets [A=Arty, N=Naval Arty, T=Typhoon, F=Fw190G-2, M=Medic, R=Rally, P=Promote, S=Resupply]

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:49 pm**

I will update the OOB for Bayeux 2...

Commanders, With Bayeux 2 complete it's time to submit your team orders for June 9th...
PM me any questions beforehand. It's ok to send a draft, to check that all moves are valid, before going final...

Good luck all.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:50 pm**

GottaLove88s wrote:I have to say, Cavehobbit's "bad habit" of knocking out M5s and scouts makes it very difficult for his enemies to win...

Some other hobbit stole my precious ring so I need make the enemy blind instead...

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 8:08 pm**

Latest OOB updated for Bayeux 2... http://bit.ly/BA88gjs44oob

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:08 pm**

Commanders,

I'm considering releasing aerial recon of 1 or 2 battle maps ahead of June 9th orders... which might help you to choose favourable territory for your BGs...

I'm not promising (your flights might get shot down, or your sapeurs lost) but if commanders email/PM me their requests (which maps you'd like), I'll consider 'em...

Happy planning gentlemen!

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 9:52 pm**

Situation at the end of June 8th.

For iPad (don't know if it's just me, but I can't see the right side of the image above on my iPad, but I have no problems with attached images):

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:00 pm**

Cool mapping P-A.

I notice you've added an amber-coloured frame to 6al/6 (Caen) and 858/346 (Ouistreham).
Is this to show that they'll be out of supply on June 10th?
Darned clever...!

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:18 pm**

cavehobbit wrote:Can anyone explain this? When replaying jcb's last turn, suddenly I can see his Sherman shooting at a house. As you can see I have no units nearby.

It was all part of our final stage of strategy to provoke the enemy into coming out of their hidey holes.
Unfortunately a wiser commander was in charge most of the time, and they did not fall for our "ow ow my sherman is here" tricks.

Posted: **Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:32 pm**

GottaLove88s wrote:Cool mapping P-A.

I notice you've added an amber-coloured frame to 6al/6 (Caen) and 858/346 (Ouistreham).
Is this to show that they'll be out of supply on June 10th?
Darned clever...!

No, this show they are cut off from their line of supply. If out of supply the frame will be red. I will try to work out a way to show how many days of supply a BG has.

Slitherine

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