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Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:32 pm
by AlanCutner
So throwing your first game could be a winning strategy? Discuss....
Hmmmm...could we see all the top players trying to lose? Doesn't seem likely, but just one more way to bate anyone who loses their first game.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:05 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:The event wasn't seeded last year and it didn't seem to be a problem.
The only problem that I recall was the results being unpublished round by round and unfortunately they were recorded incorrectly - at least twice that we know of - which arguably skewed the draw and the results.
Interestingly, if we were to apply this year's scoring system to last year's results, there would be no change in the Ancients placings but in Medieval, Guillaume Fremont who was 3rd, would have won. He lost 5 to 20 in the first round which helped him to avoid most of the other top placed players - he only played 2 games vs someone who ended in the top 10. Result!
So throwing your first game could be a winning strategy? Discuss....
Ah, the typical perfidious Frenchman.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:06 am
by muz177
petedalby wrote:Interestingly, if we were to apply this year's scoring system ....
What is the scoring system to be used at Britcon?
Muz
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:19 am
by dave_r
muz177 wrote:petedalby wrote:Interestingly, if we were to apply this year's scoring system ....
What is the scoring system to be used at Britcon?
Muz
You take your best five scores out of your six games. Or alternatively, you can choose to drop the Friday night or Saturday night game.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:09 am
by titanu
dave_r wrote:Ah, the typical perfidious Frenchman.
Tautology!
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:11 am
by Robert241167
Hi guys
I was also concerned about the ability to submarine by dropping the worst score but this comment is from Tim on the first page:
"By Sunday morning everyone will be counting 3 results in the draw - either because they have played only 3, or because they have played 4 and the draw will always drop the worst score for people playing all the games.
Play 6 and you always ignore your worst score (after round 2) so you can't submarine, play 5 and you have no margin for error as everyone else is dropping their worst score in each round of the draw and you aren't. All in all we suspect that it will actually be harder to submarine than before.."
Makes me feel a tad happier.
Rob
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 11:17 am
by zoltan
titanu wrote:dave_r wrote:Ah, the typical perfidious Frenchman.
Tautology!
The lady doth protest too much, methinks!
Perfidious Albion is more the player's call.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:34 pm
by petedalby
Makes me feel a tad happier.
Me too. Thanks Rob.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:20 pm
by titanu
zoltan wrote:The lady doth protest too much, methinks!
What's this colonials quoting Shakespeare!!
Also if you are thinking of lady (boys) Ruddocks your man(?).
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:14 am
by zoltan
titanu wrote:zoltan wrote:The lady doth protest too much, methinks!
What's this colonials quoting Shakespeare!
Colinials? Hah, that's rich coming from a former French colony! Or should that be German?
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:05 am
by grahambriggs
dave_r wrote:muz177 wrote:petedalby wrote:Interestingly, if we were to apply this year's scoring system ....
What is the scoring system to be used at Britcon?
Muz
You take your best five scores out of your six games. Or alternatively, you can choose to drop the Friday night or Saturday night game.
Well, that's part of the scoring system. But it would be useful to know how each game will be scored. Doesn'#t seem to be on the website.
I assume it'll be something along the lines of the common BHGS system of sharing 20 points between the players according to attrition points lost and size of army, plus 5 points for breakingthe opposing army?
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:52 am
by muz177
Yes, that was what my question was seeking confirmation on.
Muz
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:52 am
by kevinj
Yes, it will be the Standard BHGS system, i.e.:
You Score
A) The percentage of your original army that remains, divided by 10
+
B) The percentage of your opponents enemy that is lost, divided by 10
+
C) 5 points if your opponent's army routed and yours did not.
Your Opponent Scores
D) The percentage of their original army that remains, divided by 10
+
E) The percentage of your enemy that is lost, divided by 10
+
F) 5 points if your army routed and theirs did not.
A+B+C+D will always equal 20.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:51 am
by titanu
kevinj wrote:...... A+B+C+D will always equal 20.
Also A+B and C+D are rounded, winners score going up e.g. 12.4 v 7.6 will be 12 v 8 and 12.5 v 7.5 will be 13 v 7.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:29 pm
by kevinj
Also A+B and C+D are rounded, winners score going up e.g. 12.4 v 7.6 will be 12 v 8 and 12.5 v 7.5 will be 13 v 7
That's how it is on the scoresheet, which gives you a reasonable indication of your score. For Britcon I will be entering the scores into a spreadsheet that will hold them to as many places of decimals as I need to separate people.
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:45 pm
by vexillia
kevinj wrote:A+B+C+D will always equal 20.
Cough! Shouldn't that A+B+D+E=20 and C+F=5 or 0
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 pm
by kevinj
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:36 pm
by petedalby
That's how it is on the scoresheet, which gives you a reasonable indication of your score. For Britcon I will be entering the scores into a spreadsheet that will hold them to as many places of decimals as I need to separate people.
Good to know that we'll be in such capable hands Kevin!
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:49 pm
by kevinj
I just need to make sure I get the right letters in my formulae!
Re: Britcon 2013
Posted: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:14 pm
by timmy1
Kevin - start by modelling your results against Alasdair - that will test the limit conditions...
