Slitherine

there are several scenarios where air capble units can be attacked more than twice - describe two scenarios where this can happen when the unit cannot be attacked by land or surface bombardment

I guess you include paratrooper units in land attacks? Do you include aircraft carriers in air capable units?

Normally you can attack once by luring the unit into intercepting an airstrike in another hex. Then you can attack the airbase directly. Paratroopers can land adjacent to the airbase and attack it, but that's considered a land attack I guess. Aircraft carriers can be attacked by numerous naval units. Coastal air units can be attacked directly from amphibious landings, but I guess that's also considered to be a land attack.

So I'm puzzled if there are other ways to attack an air unit 3 times. The air unit can only intercept once and you can only have 1 airbase attack.

Stauffenberg wrote:I guess you include paratrooper units in land attacks? Do you include aircraft carriers in air capable units?

Normally you can attack once by luring the unit into intercepting an airstrike in another hex. Then you can attack the airbase directly. Paratroopers can land adjacent to the airbase and attack it, but that's considered a land attack I guess. Aircraft carriers can be attacked by numerous naval units. Coastal air units can be attacked directly from amphibious landings, but I guess that's also considered to be a land attack.

So I'm puzzled if there are other ways to attack an air unit 3 times. The air unit can only intercept once and you can only have 1 airbase attack.

CV's do count!

If CVs count they can of course be attacked more then three times by other naval units.

Otherwise any air unit loaded on a transport can also be attacked more then two times by other naval units.

correct and there are others!

richardsd wrote:correct and there are others!

Draw a fighter up in air to air combat (#1), then air attack the fighter at it's base (#2), attack it's base with a ground unit and force it to retreat (doesn't count) and then air attack the fighter at it's new base (#3).

rkr1958 wrote:

richardsd wrote:correct and there are others!

Draw a fighter up in air to air combat (#1), then air attack the fighter at it's base (#2), attack it's base with a ground unit and force it to retreat (doesn't count) and then air attack the fighter at it's new base (#3).

yep thats correct too - and there are more!

but technically zechi is the winner with the first two, but asa we have seen there are many ways!

Which neutral countries may join either the Axis or the Allies under certain conditions and what are these conditions?
The question does not refer to any countries which will join the Axis or the Allies anyway, such as Iraq, Egypt, Bulgaria, Romania or Hungary, but to countries which remain neutral throughout the war if not certain conditions are fulfilled.

zechi wrote:Which neutral countries may join either the Axis or the Allies under certain conditions and what are these conditions?
The question does not refer to any countries which will join the Axis or the Allies anyway, such as Iraq, Egypt, Bulgaria, Romania or Hungary, but to countries which remain neutral throughout the war if not certain conditions are fulfilled.

Spain and Turkey spring to mind, Spain join the Axis if the Axis reject the Armistace and control the key NAfrica cities, Casablanca, Oran, Algiers, Tunis plus Rome and Paris. Spain joins the allies if the Armistace is rejected and the same cities are allied controlled.

Turkey will join the Axis if Athens, Bucharest, Sofia, Moscow, Baku and Baghdad are all allied controlled. Turkey will join the Allies if all those cities are allied controlled!

Oh and Persia of course, it join the Allies if an Axis unit is adjacent to an Iraqi city or resource. No wait, Persia eventually joins the Allies no ,matter what.

Those are the ones I can think of.

The countries are correct, but I did not know that Spain may join the Allies. Are you sure about this? Furthmore, Spain will only join the Axis if the US are not already at war.

zechi wrote:The countries are correct, but I did not know that Spain may join the Allies. Are you sure about this? Furthmore, Spain will only join the Axis if the US are not already at war.

oh yes but its rather hard as you have to take Rome!

richardsd wrote:

zechi wrote:The countries are correct, but I did not know that Spain may join the Allies. Are you sure about this? Furthmore, Spain will only join the Axis if the US are not already at war.

oh yes but its rather hard as you have to take Rome!

Will Spain only join the Allies before US entered the war or is there a different time element for the activation of Spain on the Allied side?

Of course you got the initiative.

zechi wrote:The countries are correct, but I did not know that Spain may join the Allies. Are you sure about this? Furthmore, Spain will only join the Axis if the US are not already at war.

Yes, they may join the Allies

I'm curious about why this rule (about Spain joining the Allies) was put in GS. The conditions were satisfied in the real war, but Spain did not join the Allies. And if it does happen in the game it's almost certainly too late to make any difference.

On a distantly related note : personally I'd like to see (as an option) less predictable behaviour by Spain, Turkey and some other countries. Even Italian surrender could be made a random +/- (maybe 4 cities will do it, maybe only 6?). It's very gamey "knowing" that if I take (say) Taranto then Mussolini is out.

avoran wrote:I'm curious about why this rule (about Spain joining the Allies) was put in GS. The conditions were satisfied in the real war, but Spain did not join the Allies. And if it does happen in the game it's almost certainly too late to make any difference.

On a distantly related note : personally I'd like to see (as an option) less predictable behaviour by Spain, Turkey and some other countries. Even Italian surrender could be made a random +/- (maybe 4 cities will do it, maybe only 6?). It's very gamey "knowing" that if I take (say) Taranto then Mussolini is out.

its only possible if the Axis rejects the Armistace, so its on an alternative 'non - historical' game option, if the game follows historical lines Spain doesn't get involved

choice is good

I agree. Getting Spain or Turkey on one's side doesn't seem worth it though but it's like driving a car with your feet; it makes sense that you're able to do it but doing it doesn't make sense.

zechi wrote:

richardsd wrote:

zechi wrote:The countries are correct, but I did not know that Spain may join the Allies. Are you sure about this? Furthmore, Spain will only join the Axis if the US are not already at war.

oh yes but its rather hard as you have to take Rome!

Will Spain only join the Allies before US entered the war or is there a different time element for the activation of Spain on the Allied side?

Of course you got the initiative.

Spain can join the Allies after the USA enters the war.

Q. why is organisation an important research area for the Russian's?

This is because Russia starts with organization tech 1 while Germany has organization tech 3. Each organization tech advance will increase the max efficiency of the unit. The more effective the Russian unit is the higher casualties it will inflict on the German units and the less damage they will receive.

Russia will struggle with destroying German units late in the war unless the organization tech has advanced at least to tech 3. At tech 1 the efficiency increase is just 3. At tech 2 it's 11 and at tech 3 it's 21. So 2 extra levels in organization will boost the efficiency by 18. That's more than the best leader (Zhukov). Even better is that the efficiency increase from organization applies to ALL units and is CUMULATIVE with the increase from a leader.