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Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:49 pm
by Schneides42
CaptainRope1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:41 pm
Schneides42 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:06 am
CaptainRope1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:30 am
That sounds about true because that mostly what the US would have down in reality but the other thing to was that when the Japanese did most of the attack they where outnumber in almost all of there battle in one example is the Fall of Singapore if the British forces knew how many Japanese troops where attacking them and where tired and low on ammo they the British would of have rally and beaten them. Like most of there wins in there campaigns for the Pacific Ocean they where luck and most of the commanders at the time ether underestmat them or where trying to find out what to do or where surprise of the attacks you can look up some of this stuff on youtube channel World War 2 in real time by Indy Nidel it week by week he did not said the japanese got luck part that by my view of the events.
The issue with the alternative history of the British and Commonwealth troops rallying and defending Singapore against tired and low on ammo troops is the question of who would have been reinforced first? There were few additional troops in Australia and the supply lines from even India would have taken longer to get there than from Japanese bases. Singapore was never the impregnable fortress that British propaganda claimed it to be.
I believe that Singapore was not a impregnable fortress everything most fall to time but one of the key moments in the battle of Singapore was when the water resuver were take by the Japanese if the british where to lauch a counter attack then they would have hold out longer then the japanese have want which would have force a retrate cause they where unable to countuie the attack cause of low supply and out pesty the supply convoles.
For those interested there is a great book on the subject:
Singapore: The Pregnable Fortress: A Study in Deception, Discord and Desertion by Peter Elphick. It covers the preparation for and then the entire Malaya Campaign. Churchill does not come out well in the book!
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:54 am
by Retributarr
Singapore:
I have never made a determined study of this WWII effort, but what I do know is that almost all of the defences of Singapore were facing the Ocean... where they expected the Japanese to attack from. But!... of course the unpredictable Japanese did just exactly the opposite... and... instead... attacked the most undefended side with great effort!... so there you go!.
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:02 am
by Schneides42
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:54 am
Singapore:
I have never made a determined study of this WWII effort, but what I do know is that almost all of the defences of Singapore were facing the Ocean... where they expected the Japanese to attack from. But!... of course the unpredictable Japanese did just exactly the opposite... and... instead... attacked the most undefended side with great effort!... so there you go!.
That is one of the myths about Singapore, it wasn't the guns (most could turn or be re-positioned) but everything else the British did, that was the problem!
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:58 am
by CaptainRope1
Schneides42 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 3:02 am
Retributarr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 06, 2022 1:54 am
Singapore:
I have never made a determined study of this WWII effort, but what I do know is that almost all of the defences of Singapore were facing the Ocean... where they expected the Japanese to attack from. But!... of course the unpredictable Japanese did just exactly the opposite... and... instead... attacked the most undefended side with great effort!... so there you go!.
That is one of the myths about Singapore, it wasn't the guns (most could turn or be re-positioned) but everything else the British did, that was the problem!
The British Commander of Singapore was a idiot and is some one who should not have been in command of its defences
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:12 am
by CaptainRope1
Schneides42 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 9:49 pm
CaptainRope1 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 4:41 pm
Schneides42 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 05, 2022 1:06 am
The issue with the alternative history of the British and Commonwealth troops rallying and defending Singapore against tired and low on ammo troops is the question of who would have been reinforced first? There were few additional troops in Australia and the supply lines from even India would have taken longer to get there than from Japanese bases. Singapore was never the impregnable fortress that British propaganda claimed it to be.
I believe that Singapore was not a impregnable fortress everything most fall to time but one of the key moments in the battle of Singapore was when the water resuver were take by the Japanese if the british where to lauch a counter attack then they would have hold out longer then the japanese have want which would have force a retrate cause they where unable to countuie the attack cause of low supply and out pesty the supply convoles.
For those interested there is a great book on the subject:
Singapore: The Pregnable Fortress: A Study in Deception, Discord and Desertion by Peter Elphick. It covers the preparation for and then the entire Malaya Campaign. Churchill does not come out well in the book!
it does not help to the fact the the Japanese did not have a Spy network at all and if there was a British traitor in the rank we would of know about it by now. Here is a video that explains the Japanese Spy network
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyZX7xK ... 11[YouTube][/YouTube]
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 5:15 am
by CaptainRope1
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 4:16 am
by robman
calmhatchery wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 10:37 pm
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:59 pm
I didnt saw twich event because my job, any news about PC pacific?? Release date? Other dlc news?
yes!!!. You can apply for beta test Pacific. Pacific DLC (American campaign will be first) This DLC will be avialable probably in first half of 2022.
Cheers
Peter
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:15 am
by calmhatchery
unfortunaly not yet. edmon wrote about covid between designers of Pacific Dlc. So thats way we have a delay.
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:52 pm
by terminator
No news from the Pacific in the latest Tea Time...
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:22 pm
by GUNDOBALDO08
Fifteen days ago Marco during the teatime said that there would be important news on Pacific Dlc within a couple of weeks .... fifteen days ago!


Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:37 am
by Schneides42
Today, (15 February) is the 80th anniversary of the fall of Singapore.
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:20 am
by Edmon
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:22 pm
Fifteen days ago Marco during the teatime said that there would be important news on Pacific Dlc within a couple of weeks .... fifteen days ago!

Marco was off sick last week.
So he's busy catching up with everything today, sorry for the delay...
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:15 pm
by GUNDOBALDO08
Edmon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:20 am
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:22 pm
Fifteen days ago Marco during the teatime said that there would be important news on Pacific Dlc within a couple of weeks .... fifteen days ago!

Marco was off sick last week.
So he's busy catching up with everything today, sorry for the delay...
Wow, so is there any news today?!?
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51 pm
by Retributarr
"Marco was off sick last week.":
[Not-Serious... but this is how I see it!.]… 'Because the Japanese Banzai-Charged his position... and nearly scewered him... he had only sustained non life threatening injuries. Now!... for Europe... "Putin"... the 'Mad-Man'... like 'Hitler'... is on a messianic quest to restore all the ill-gotten gains that Russia illegally-wrongfully took during WWII. After 'Ukraine' is smashed into the ground... then... the 'Baltic States' will follow... and then later... the rest of western Europe. The 'Chinese' will support him for any shortfalls that he experiences in order to minimize or degrade the effect of any possible sanctions... as well as help him financially... so that he can continue his quest/vision of "Russian Lebensraum".
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 8:56 am
by VirgilInTheSKY
Retributarr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51 pm
"Marco was off sick last week.":
[Not-Serious... but this is how I see it!.]… 'Because the Japanese Banzai-Charged his position... and nearly scewered him... he had only sustained non life threatening injuries. Now!... for Europe... "Putin"... the 'Mad-Man'... like 'Hitler'... is on a messianic quest to restore all the ill-gotten gains that Russia illegally-wrongfully took during WWII. After 'Ukraine' is smashed into the ground... then... the 'Baltic States' will follow... and then later... the rest of western Europe. The 'Chinese' will support him for any shortfalls that he experiences in order to minimize or degrade the effect of any possible sanctions... as well as help him financially... so that he can continue his quest/vision of "Russian Lebensraum".
Stop unlrelated politic speaking here, please.
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2022 2:53 pm
by Edmon
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:15 pm
Edmon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:20 am
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:22 pm
Fifteen days ago Marco during the teatime said that there would be important news on Pacific Dlc within a couple of weeks .... fifteen days ago!

Marco was off sick last week.
So he's busy catching up with everything today, sorry for the delay...
Wow, so is there any news today?!?
As soon as I have news, I will let you know

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Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2022 12:45 pm
by GomezAdams
Retributarr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 21, 2022 11:51 pm
"Marco was off sick last week.":
[Not-Serious... but this is how I see it!.]… 'Because the Japanese Banzai-Charged his position... and nearly scewered him... he had only sustained non life threatening injuries. Now!... for Europe... "Putin"... the 'Mad-Man'... like 'Hitler'... is on a messianic quest to restore all the ill-gotten gains that Russia illegally-wrongfully took during WWII. After 'Ukraine' is smashed into the ground... then... the 'Baltic States' will follow... and then later... the rest of western Europe. The 'Chinese' will support him for any shortfalls that he experiences in order to minimize or degrade the effect of any possible sanctions... as well as help him financially... so that he can continue his quest/vision of "Russian Lebensraum".
Care to try that again in English without a thousand ellipses in it, comrade?
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:07 pm
by jchastain
It has been a few months since there has been any news. Has anyone heard anything? Still just waiting patiently but it sure would be good to hear a little bit about what is going on.
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:35 pm
by adiekmann
Yes, I figured they would wait a bit between the release of AO43 and Pacific, but I wondered too if they are ready to begin BETA testing.
Speaking of which, will we need to sign up for it again, or the first time still applies?
Re: Panzer Corps goes Pacific
Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:42 pm
by terminator
It seems useless after having done the test :

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