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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:22 pm
by faos333
Turn 48 a hardly earned hero in the East
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:33 pm
by faos333
Turn 49 Aufklarung (Recon) units from AG South closing in Astrakhan. Elements from KG Skorzeny to carry surprise attack
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:37 pm
by faos333
Turn 49 shock Italy surrenders!
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:43 pm
by faos333
Turn 50 new army raised Italy, Fatal blow to DAK navy and air Italian units leave
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:56 pm
by Uhu
It is more practical to place defenders west of the Voronezh hex. In that way, the road is still blocked. In Voronezh everything will perish because of the close quarter combat and because it can be attacked from several direction.

faos333 wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:10 pm

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:18 pm
by faos333
Uhu wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:56 pm It is more practical to place defenders west of the Voronezh hex. In that way, the road is still blocked. In Voronezh everything will perish because of the close quarter combat and because it can be attacked from several direction.

faos333 wrote: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:10 pm
We are so right!!
I learned this the hard way.. losing an infantry division..
Your solution is brilliant :D

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm
by goose_2
Uhu wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:16 am - Caucasus is and absolute must: you will need that extra prestige badly... I'm little confused in which difficulty the oil crisis has those effects, but on higher diff, your airforce will be ruined from 44 slowly but steadily (in 44 -3xp/turn, in 45 -5xp/turn).
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Hey hey, I had time to take a more detailed look at this aar...trying hard to avoid spoilers...

But this has me curious.

Are you saying that in 44 my units will lose 3 exp every turn? and start losing -5 in 45? That sucks...I have been wondering if I am gaining experience in 42 as some units seem to gain even though they are not fighting.

Is that -3 for all experience levels or does it increase decrease with the amount of stars you have?

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:25 pm
by PeteMitchell
goose_2 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Uhu wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:16 am - Caucasus is and absolute must: you will need that extra prestige badly... I'm little confused in which difficulty the oil crisis has those effects, but on higher diff, your airforce will be ruined from 44 slowly but steadily (in 44 -3xp/turn, in 45 -5xp/turn).
Hey hey, I had time to take a more detailed look at this aar...trying hard to avoid spoilers...

But this has me curious.

Are you saying that in 44 my units will lose 3 exp every turn? and start losing -5 in 45? That sucks...I have been wondering if I am gaining experience in 42 as some units seem to gain even though they are not fighting.

Is that -3 for all experience levels or does it increase decrease with the amount of stars you have?
It impacts your planes (especially fighters) as pilot training was reduced over the course of the war, mainly due to the high number of losses and fuel shortages... so new pilots were deployed quickly/without enough training... therefore the experience of these units dropped. Plus even flight instructors were deployed to combat operations (so less training capacity available).

Such a nice mod! :lol: :mrgreen:

Some background: https://www.ww2-weapons.com/pilot-train ... luftwaffe/

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:56 pm
by goose_2
PeteMitchell wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:25 pm
goose_2 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm
Uhu wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:16 am - Caucasus is and absolute must: you will need that extra prestige badly... I'm little confused in which difficulty the oil crisis has those effects, but on higher diff, your airforce will be ruined from 44 slowly but steadily (in 44 -3xp/turn, in 45 -5xp/turn).
Hey hey, I had time to take a more detailed look at this aar...trying hard to avoid spoilers...

But this has me curious.

Are you saying that in 44 my units will lose 3 exp every turn? and start losing -5 in 45? That sucks...I have been wondering if I am gaining experience in 42 as some units seem to gain even though they are not fighting.

Is that -3 for all experience levels or does it increase decrease with the amount of stars you have?
It impacts your planes (especially fighters) as pilot training was reduced over the course of the war, mainly due to the high number of losses and fuel shortages... so new pilots were deployed quickly/without enough training... therefore the experience of these units dropped. Plus even flight instructors were deployed to combat operations (so less training capacity available).

Such a nice mod! :lol: :mrgreen:

Some background: https://www.ww2-weapons.com/pilot-train ... luftwaffe/
so it is -3 exp even if they have 3 stars or is it greater? I am super close to finally getting to 3 stars on one of my fighters that I would like to keep

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2021 10:10 pm
by PeteMitchell
goose_2 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:56 pm
PeteMitchell wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:25 pm
goose_2 wrote: Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:01 pm

Hey hey, I had time to take a more detailed look at this aar...trying hard to avoid spoilers...

But this has me curious.

Are you saying that in 44 my units will lose 3 exp every turn? and start losing -5 in 45? That sucks...I have been wondering if I am gaining experience in 42 as some units seem to gain even though they are not fighting.

Is that -3 for all experience levels or does it increase decrease with the amount of stars you have?
It impacts your planes (especially fighters) as pilot training was reduced over the course of the war, mainly due to the high number of losses and fuel shortages... so new pilots were deployed quickly/without enough training... therefore the experience of these units dropped. Plus even flight instructors were deployed to combat operations (so less training capacity available).

Such a nice mod! :lol: :mrgreen:

Some background: https://www.ww2-weapons.com/pilot-train ... luftwaffe/
so it is -3 exp even if they have 3 stars or is it greater? I am super close to finally getting to 3 stars on one of my fighters that I would like to keep
I think it is minus 3 experience points per turn in 44 and minus 5 per turn in 45... regardless (!) of how much experience you have to start with... I think it says somewhere in the mod or on the forum as well

So if you have 3 stars at the beginning of 44, it will be something like 300 experience points minus 3 experience points per turn, so 297, then 294, then 291 and so on... if you have 1 star, it's 100 minus 3 per turn, so 97, 94, 91 and so on...

In 45 it continues with minus 5... but the year of 45 is also shorter :lol: :shock:

This is my humble understanding, hope it's correct. McGuba and/or Uhu may know better...

Here is some discussion on this:
viewtopic.php?t=47985&start=2140#p738407

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:21 am
by faos333
Turn 51 big successes in Astrakhan
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:27 am
by faos333
Turn 53 Super hero for upgraded artillery piece to Wurfrahmen
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:38 am
by faos333
Turn 53 intense armor fight in Voronezh
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 am
by Uhu
Great storytelling, please continue!
Pete is right about the xp loose system oof the airforce.
In previous screenshots I sill saw un-upgraded panzers like Pz35, Pz38. Why no upgrade? They would be much more potent even as PzIII (...and soon as Panther A). It is because not enough prestige?
I always rename my hero units already at the start, like 34. GebJäger +2A, and also the arty like 4. Arty (horse+), or 7. PzGren (Mot-7)

Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:44 am
by faos333
Turn 53 minor crises in Norway from commando attack
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:51 am
by faos333
Turn 53 attacking Leningrad from the left is easier
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:59 am
by faos333
Turn 53 DAK eliminating defense line of Alexandria
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:06 am
by faos333
Turn 54 AG South entering Grozny oil field in Caucasus
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:17 am
by faos333
Turn 55 Sevastopol under siege
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Re: The most Realistic Experience Mod Battlefield: Europe v2.0

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:24 am
by faos333
Turn 55 Tiger I joins the battle in Leningrad
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