Slitherine

BarbarianHunter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 12:05 am No Retaliation + Double Move + Double Attack + 109Z = UFO tier aircraft.

FB wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 12:04 pm I revised this list for my own calculations and use and also for other players that may find it useful.

But it depends a lot on personal preferences and gameplay.

Tassadar wrote: ↑Thu Apr 20, 2023 5:15 pm New AO campaigns put some of the traits into new perspective and challenge runs did it even more.

FB wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:30 pm

DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:26 pm If you use provocateur wisely the AI will wipe out itself in a few turns. That works in any year, on any map.

As I said, you have the right to have your own favorite things, that suit your taste, like Provocator and have fun doing it. But if you like it, it will not make it optimal or the best.

If I play wisely I will wipe out the AI in an area faster and in less turns than using Provocator and waiting for the AI to do it. Just outmaneuvering, encirclement and combined forces tactics, which was the real Blitzkrieg. And I can do it easily in 2 (or maybe even 3) areas in the same time, while you probably do not have 2-3 Provocator units.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Tue May 16, 2023 1:59 am Does the No Surrender hero increase in value if the enemy uses vicious surrender mechanics? While I'll never, ever put Overwhelming Attack and Envelopment together on the same enemy unit. I've been trying out Shock Tactics on some artillery pieces to creating a real 'pin' effect.

And oh boy does it hurt. A lot of these extreme veteran deaths would have been prevented with a No Surrender hero of my own.

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Schwarzvogel wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:55 am

Gfot wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 5:37 pm

impossible wrote: ↑Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:50 pm there are ridiculous combos that breaks the game, out of which
- vigilant+ignore entrenchment on a tank
- envelopment + overwhelming attack on e.g. a recon ESPECIALLY coupled scavenger
- first strike+rapid fire on a fighter

are by far the most ridiulous. im sure there are many other combos which makes the game pathetically easy. also the verdeja 2 is a broken tank it needs to be MASSIVELY nerfed, its even better than the char b1.

You are not forced to assign those heroes to the same unit. You're also not forced to use the "broken" Verdeja. By asking for them to get MASSIVELY (your caps) nerfed, you're basically asking the devs to take away options from the people who actually enjoy those options. Instead of throwing terms like "ridiculous" and "pathetic" around, why don't you try to realize that different people have different ideas of what's fun and what's not, and respect them for it?

Exactly. Moreover, you aren't guaranteed to get any of those heroes in a campaign. I'm nearly through my historical campaign in the base game and I've never gotten a hero with Envelopment, Overwhelming Attack, First Strike, or Rapid Fire.

As for Double Attack, I'd put that in "A" tier rather than "SS" since I don't find it to be as versatile as the Rapid Fire heroes since double attack can burn through ammo faster (whilst Rapid Fire doesn't consume extra ammo), and you aren't guaranteed to always find a second target in range to attack except with artillery and aircraft that have Double Move.

Regarding things which "break" the game, let's remember that this is single player we are talking about. You can play it however you damn well please. One can argue that General Traits like Master of Blitzkrieg similarly "break" the game by allowing your tanks to ignore minor rivers and take shortcuts. I've even seen some people claim that AA Veteran also "breaks" the game (it doesn't, as the rapid fire AA guns largely become dead weight once the tac bombers and fighters are gone as their AT values aren't strong enough to harm late-war tanks or even threaten 1943-era infantry much.)

nexusno2000 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 24, 2023 11:22 am
* The AI COMPLETELY ignores this hero and will gleefully commit SUICIDE with its best units, again and again. In this, it reminds me a lot of Camouflage.

Even if the AI did account for Provocateur, it would still be good as you'd lock the AI out of key avenues of attack.

PanzerCro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:04 am Question for more seasoned PC2 players, should I put lethal attack hero on strategic bomber or arty ?

PanzerCro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:04 am Question for more seasoned PC2 players, should I put lethal attack hero on strategic bomber or arty ?

PanzerCro wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:04 am Question for more seasoned PC2 players, should I put lethal attack hero on strategic bomber or arty ?