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The authors aren't willing to make changes to the capture/uncontrolled artillery rules (which the current rules are almost without a defender), so I don't think they are going to make any changes to the DH rules.timmy1 wrote:Get the authors to fix Impact Mounted DH... (e.g. second rank contribute 1 dice per base in impact) so they can fight with a chance of winning the Impact and be in a deeper formation. Limit that to Poles and you give them a chance.
Do you mind I resemble that remarktimmy1 wrote:Nifel
With your record I think that the other players do not feel that you need be restricted to playing Dog Lists...
The aren't terrible, just terribly overpriced for two reasons:Schnockel wrote:Why do you think Polish Hussars are so terrible? They get an advantage in the impact, and an advantage in causing a, perhaps, bigger cohesion loss? Basically, they should win the impact and, if they don't, the guys tough (or lucky) enough to stop them deserve a victory.
No, most people aren't asking for a rule change* in terms of interactions on the table, they are asking for troops to be priced according to their actual utility. This makes more armies competitively feasible and makes for a more interesting game. Or maybe it lets the Polish players sneak in another unit of Hussars to look pretty and perform underwhelmingly.If you gave the Hussars the advantage you want the authors to change, would ANYBODY be able to defeat them? What fun would that be?
I guess I don't understand the problem.
I'm not sure the chance of causing an effective cohesion test is as likely as you suggest. In my experience, the opponents mounted are usually superior with a general, often fighting in the front rank and some times with rear support. Factor in te superior reroll , I have found both when playing against and wth hussars, they don't get the critical disruption marker going down at impact. The next round usually becomes ,superior, armoured, pistol, general front rank (so 4s needed rerolling 1s and 2s) vs superior, armoured. (5s needing 5s rerolling 1s, unless your brave and throw in a general).Schnockel wrote:I still don't see the problem. One thing you forget is that the Poles will almost certainly cause a casualty in the impact. The opponent will get maybe a 50-50 chance at it. The Poles will almost certainly win the impact causing, usually, a severe and difficult cohesion test. That's a lot of advantage. And the cuirassier? If they survive they'll be a problem, but there aren't any determined cuirassier that I have seen...so you'll need twice as many cuirassier to hit the Poles...which costs lots more than the Polish Hussars.
Yes, with bad rolls it's tough on the Poles...but that is true of any army or game.
Well, the 'problem' is that probably the single most popular army in historical wargaming doesn't get much light of day because the rules make them not cost-effective.Schnockel wrote:I still don't see the problem.
