Army Remorse?

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 1:49 am

Anyone ever get it? I've got it bad.

A few months ago, I bought about 800 points (+/-) of models for my second army out of Storm of Arrows. My decision was between two armies and at the time I decided on the one that seemed to make the most sense, was most practical, and arguably was the stronger army. The army I did not choose was more my "type" in terms of "personality".

So, here I sit. I've built and primed one BG so far and frankly, I'm just not into them. The obvious choice is to go buy models for the other army. But we all are dealing with subpar economic times I'm sure, it just doesn't seem like a great idea. It's not like FoG armies and models go for high prices on Ebay... not like some of the bigger game systems out there... (by comparison, I ebayed a painted FoW army of mine for well over what I paid for it).

So.. army remorse. I know I'm not the only one... but how did you deal with it?

devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:01 am

Which armies are you referring to?

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:11 am

Well, the question is general, it doesn't really matter in context.

But the army I bought was Swiss... tons of pikes, Widely regarded as a powerful army but I suppose they're just not my cup of tea. Why? Not sure... maybe they're not dirty enough. I think my gut told me to go for Medieval Irish, in spite of the limitations of the list, they lower variety of troop choices... there's just something about the Irish that I really like and identify with.

My first army is Medieval French, which I've had my ups and downs with but genuinely enjoy. They're staying... this is solely about my 2nd army, which we both (my opponent and I) decided to do simply to expand our medieval choices.

expendablecinc · Post by **expendablecinc** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:45 am

Rattleshirt wrote:Well, the question is general, it doesn't really matter in context.

But the army I bought was Swiss... tons of pikes, Widely regarded as a powerful army but I suppose they're just not my cup of tea. Why? Not sure... maybe they're not dirty enough. I think my gut told me to go for Medieval Irish, in spite of the limitations of the list, they lower variety of troop choices... there's just something about the Irish that I really like and identify with.

My first army is Medieval French, which I've had my ups and downs with but genuinely enjoy. They're staying... this is solely about my 2nd army, which we both (my opponent and I) decided to do simply to expand our medieval choices.

I suggest painting and selling the swiss in BGs if you are an ok painter. Lots of people would go for a BG of 8 or 12 swiss as they would either be looking to Fogify their dbx army or form internal or external swiss allies to another army.

DBA has a big following on ebay and they tend to sell ok as well so you could parcel them up into DBA armies and sell them off either painted or unpainted.

philqw78 · Post by **philqw78** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:20 am

Paint it, keep it, hide it in a cupboard. Whenever the army is mentioned you can say you have it.

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:23 am

Expendablecinc, good advice. Although I have to admit, I'd rather just build something I want to play. It's a lot of time and effort as everyone knows... but it's not a bad tactic. I hadn't thought about selling in BG. I'm an ok enough painter, I always call it a "decent table/gaming standard"... no professionalism here. And frankly I hadn't thought about the DBA market as well.

Phil... excellent idea. Then I can buy another one and let it sit and so on. I'll have to change my signature so I can list all my armies though... very conspicuous when it reads: Swiss 0-0-0!!

Seriously though, I suppose I should just muddle through and at least build it. Then decide what to do... ugh... that's almost 250 pikemen!

Polkovnik · Post by **Polkovnik** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:24 am

"I ebayed a painted FoW army of mine for well over what I paid for it"

Painted 15mm figures go for good prices on ebay - even for average painting they should fetch double their unpainted price. Well painted figures can go for huge amounts. As mentioned above, selling in small lots generally gives the best return. DBA armies of 12 bases can go for around £100 if well painted.

hazelbark · Post by **hazelbark** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 2:42 pm

You should paint 1 BG of Swiss. Because you can add them to your Med French and likely create good morphs to various Ordonnance types.

Paint a 2nd or 3rd BG in a german style and then you could morph that army.

Then sell the unpaited lead on ebay.

If you are thinking Med Irish do anglo-irish with a big ally. Better combination and same spirit unless you are a purist.

chubooga · Post by **chubooga** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 3:11 pm

What figures are they and how much do you want for them?

I intend doing a swiss army this year, may as well be now as later............

jon

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:28 pm

Chubooga, PM sent.

timmy1 · Post by **timmy1** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:06 pm

Rattleshirt

Keep those Swiss and paint them very nicely and very late (as in looking like as close to 1512 AD) as you can get them. You know that FoG Italian Wars is on the way. Think of it as being like a DBR Swiss army. Frighteningly narrow but very much a fire and forget army, plus it will be the gaudiest thing this side of Jer Morgan.

I do know the feeling that you describe. My very first DBM army was EIR (now Principiate), still my favourite and still the one I think of as my benchmark. Looking for something VERY different but a historically matched opponent, I purchased Parthian. I perhaps used it 3 times under DBM (not used since 3.1). It started to morph into other things but never came out of the box as I purchased it. Then along comes FoG and suddenly it is out of the box again. First army I used. Not great but different and well worth a go. They have now featured in more games of FoG than any of my other armies.

Motto is don't give up, just wait until the right set of rules comes along that you will love them.

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:25 pm

Timmy, you make some good points... especially about the Italian Wars stuff coming up. I have Rank and File miniatures which are actually quite nice and look late medieval to the early 1500s. I'm surprised they're not listed on all the references for Swiss models.

In any case, it's not giving up, it's giving in... giving in to what's in my heart as opposed to laboring through something that I'm not into. Some people can drive themselves to do something that they don't love. I've never been one of those people, perhaps that's a failing.

So, we'll see. Perhaps I'll offload them, perhaps I'll take your advice. There's a distinct possibility that I could end up building and painting them and then fall head over heels for them.... it's just at the moment, the task feels insurmountable and I'd rather focus on other projects.

devilforrest · Post by **devilforrest** » Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:37 pm

Dan is correct.
Do yourself a favor and keep enough to morph your Med French into Ordo French.

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:47 am

well, alright, it seems the consensus is I should keep some... so I likely will and then perhaps slowly work on the others and sell them in battlegroups or some such.

Just alot of work when I'd rather be working on other models/projects etc. Might be time to grab another army book and work out of that... hmmm... choices...

In any case, the transformation from Med French to Ord French is simple, I might grab some longbowmen to add to that and give my friend some of his own medicine! That'll show him!

(btw, what a great forum, not a single one of you said, "quit your whining and build and paint what you've got instead of pining for some other stuff and then figure it out!" which is likely good advice) Very polite people... just call me a whiner if you must.

vercingetorix · Post by **vercingetorix** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:34 pm

You might just want to leave them, and do the medieval Irish (which is a really fun army if I say so myself). Then, after you've finished the Irish, you can decide what you want to do with the Swiss (sell them off, keep some for ordinance french, paint the entire army, etc).

mellis1644 · Post by **mellis1644** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:59 pm

philqw78 wrote:Paint it, keep it, hide it in a cupboard. Whenever the army is mentioned you can say you have it.

hhmm....That sounds like more than half my armies. Need to get more games in

Rattleshirt · Post by **Rattleshirt** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 12:48 pm

Screw it! I'm just going to build up the Swiss and play them as I originally intended. enough of this... med. irish are still a thought, but they'll have to wait with this project, another FoW army and upcoming Napoleonics to contend with....

I'll have a pretty good range of medievals with full French and Swiss armies to play... can always mix and match and play some others, as everyone advised.

Thanks folks!