The AAR of Dyle plan(Peterjfrigate Axis vs Morris Allies)

[Morris]

turn 9- turn 11 Mud

As peter said , Axis suffer 3 mud weather from turn 9 to turn 11 . Nothing happened but wait for fair weather .

[Morris]

Turn 12 Apr 8th 1940 fair

Finally , the weather turn fair . Axis launch full attack & take Holland & Liege . & kill another Gar . But they did not attack Brussel . Maybe next turn .


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[joerock22]

Did peterjfrigate lose that many fighters steps in 1 April turn, or were his fighters already damaged?

[Morris]

Did peterjfrigate lose that many fighters steps in 1 April turn, or were his fighters already damaged?

Yes , he did lose them in the first turnof fair day ( Apr 8th 1940)

[Morris]

Apr 28th 1940

Axis attack Brussel which is defended by a blue French Mech with 6 entrenchment . They used their best units with two tac support , but Brussel is left as one step ! Our RAF & France Airforce provided a strong airsupport to against the great Luftwaffe & badly hurt them .We exchange a new Mech into Brussel & try to hold it as long as possible .


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[Cybvep]

I think that you may lose both MECHs next turn. The entrenchment level will be lower and the depleted MECH may be destroyed by one air attack.

[Kragdob]

The question is if Germans can conquer France before autumn comes.

[Crazygunner1]

The question is if Germans can conquer France before autumn comes.

Nope they won´t. The front is to small....i would be surprised if he can hold a pase of 3 allied units destroyed per turn. France makes atleast 20 by now and can put out one GAR/turn. UK makes more and probably put out a corp per turn if he want. Gonna take a long time if there is only one unit destroyed per turn and the rest are replaced.

There will be some relieve when Italy joins the war

[joerock22]

The big problem for the Axis is the state of the Luftwaffe. He can't kill 3 units per turn if the Allied fighters are getting repaired each turn. Against the strategy like this, the Axis player has to forget about labs until he has built up a large air force - 4 fighters and 4 Tacs. That stinks, but it's the only way to capture Paris in a reasonable time. Air support is absolutely crucial to attacking along a narrow front--much more so than in a broad front like the USSR.

[Morris]

May 18th 1940 fair

Axis continue their attack to Brussel , the Mech escaped from Brussel is killed by Air raid .
Brussel is reduced to yellow 4 . We supply it & prepare for the Brussel fall in next turn . Also another Gar killed .


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[Morris]

I think that you may lose both MECHs next turn. The entrenchment level will be lower and the depleted MECH may be destroyed by one air attack.

You are quite right sir !The fact is just happen like your predict . but it won the time !We hold Brussel for one more turn .

[Morris]

The big problem for the Axis is the state of the Luftwaffe. He can't kill 3 units per turn if the Allied fighters are getting repaired each turn. Against the strategy like this, the Axis player has to forget about labs until he has built up a large air force - 4 fighters and 4 Tacs. That stinks, but it's the only way to capture Paris in a reasonable time. Air support is absolutely crucial to attacking along a narrow front--much more so than in a broad front like the USSR.

yes , Axis lost huge amount of Luftwaffe in this game . I will show the casuaties after the France campaign , you will find it . But to open the lab later ,means the Axis tec advantage will lose early in late 1942 ! Can you imagine the USSR & USA has same or better air & tank tec in late 1942(Usually Axis has the tec advantage until late 1943) ? it will means the Axis has no hope to survive until 1945 .

[Kragdob]

If the game goes like that then Dyle Plan is much worth its price. You do not have to worry about Sea Lion and Germans will be barely able to conquer Balkans on time - they can forget about NA.

[Morris]

If the game goes like that then Dyle Plan is much worth its price. You do not have to worry about Sea Lion and Germans will be barely able to conquer Balkans on time - they can forget about NA.

Maybe . but we need to discuss about it after the Paris fall .

[Cybvep]

I'm a bit surprised by lack of progress in fair weather. The road to Paris is long and the Axis' air losses are high. Without the morale penalty from fall of Brussels, this will be a long and bloody struggle.

[joerock22]

But to open the lab later ,means the Axis tec advantage will lose early in late 1942 ! Can you imagine the USSR & USA has same or better air & tank tec in late 1942(Usually Axis has the tec advantage until late 1943) ? it will means the Axis has no hope to survive until 1945 .

True, but what is worse for the Axis: suffering huge losses and France lasting until winter 1940 or losing the tech advantage a little earlier? For my money, a late fall of France is much worse.

[Morris]

But to open the lab later ,means the Axis tec advantage will lose early in late 1942 ! Can you imagine the USSR & USA has same or better air & tank tec in late 1942(Usually Axis has the tec advantage until late 1943) ? it will means the Axis has no hope to survive until 1945 .

True, but what is worse for the Axis: suffering huge losses and France lasting until winter 1940 or losing the tech advantage a little earlier? For my money, a late fall of France is much worse.

Maybe you are right , but they are both bad for Axis .

[Morris]

June 7th 1940 fair


Finally , Axis take Brussel & kill more French , we choose to retreat to our next defense position which is well prepared .Also heavy dogfight !



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[richardsd]

I think retreating might be a mistake, he can now make you retreat 'forward' which will allow him to make better progress

[richardsd]

also, if I was him I would be looking very hard at getting to the northern UK FTR