LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Byzantine Productions Pike and Shot is a deep strategy game set during the bloody conflict of the Thirty Years War.

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fogman
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by fogman »

i won my games by reaching 40% so i see the issue. the scoring will be reviewed. i haven't had time to think it through. i will make proposals later. i'm most concerned with the fact that the winner's losses get minimized at the end of the game and thus the loser's score gets lowered artificially.
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by fogman »

two results from round 1

royalists (jomni) 5939
782 52
970 65
1206 205
8

parliament (fogman) 4882
267 52
538 109
20 13

fogman 5.2
jomni 2.3



catholics (iandavidsmith) 5148
456 132
564 168
935 474
14

swedes (fogman) 5348
168 82
341 167
9 30

fogman 5.7
iandavidsmith 1.9


i forgot but whoever is playing jomni right now please tell him to post his challenges.
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by pantherboy »

ggarnorman 5550
647 203
799 256
1031 422
16

pantherboy 5348
180 0
365 0
0 0

ggarynorman 0.1
pantherboy 6.0
................................................
cavehobbit 7054
525 45
1055 92
192 9

pantherboy 5221
879 80
1083 100
1076 133
8

cavehobbit 6.0
pantherboy 2.8
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by cavehobbit »

Cavehobbit (Parliamentarian) 4.9 pts vs Iandavidsmith (Royalist) 0.5 pts

Parliamentarian (6465)
Killed 95/3
Wounded 192/8
Captured/Deserted 0/0
Guns Lost 0

Royalist (4555)
Killed 180/139
Wounded 227/175
Captured/Deserted 866/310
Guns Lost 12

The game ended very sudden in a 40%-0% win. Thanks for the game!
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by cavehobbit »

pantherboy wrote: cavehobbit 6.0
pantherboy 2.8
Great game! Don't know how I won this one, it was much closer than the point result indicate. In percent I think it was 53%-60%.
IIRC this was my first win against PB, ever :shock: :D
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by pantherboy »

fogman 5651
478 263
592 330
887 480
16

pantherboy 6577
165 22
335 46
0 0

fogman 0.9
pantherboy 6.0
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by iandavidsmith »

A friendly reminder , unless i have missed something , i am waiting on challenges from Pantherboy and jomni

Cheers
Ian
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by iandavidsmith »

cavehobbit wrote:
pantherboy wrote: cavehobbit 6.0
pantherboy 2.8
Great game! Don't know how I won this one, it was much closer than the point result indicate. In percent I think it was 53%-60%.
IIRC this was my first win against PB, ever :shock: :D

That's a very small group you have become part off.
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Challenges posted for iandavidsmith and jomni. Passwords iandavidsmith and jomni respectively.

Cheers,

Steve
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Cavehobbit (Protestant) 6.0 pts vs ggarynorman (Catholic) 2.3 pts

Protestant (9831)
Killed 554/28
Wounded 1112/59
Captured/Deserted 83/0
Guns Lost 8

Catholic (7767)
Killed 920/388
Wounded 1137/483
Captured/Deserted 1187/334
Guns Lost 8

Thanks for a good game, well played!
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Cavehobbit (Spanish) 6.0 pts vs Fogman (Frensh) 0.9 pts

Spanish (8062)
Killed 181/29
Wounded 363/62
Captured/Deserted 66/0
Guns Lost 0

Catholic (5037)
Killed 282/440
Wounded 348/549
Captured/Deserted 477/655
Guns Lost 8

Thanks for the game!

No news from Jomni?
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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No sign from jomni.
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by jomni »

Sorry i've been out of action. Challenge coming up.
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by jomni »

Challenges are out

pw = fogman, cavehobbit, iandavidsmith
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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iandavidsmith 5969
758 211
939 263
1034 378
8

pantherboy 7780
274 89
552 181
0 44

iandavidsmith 1.8
pantherboy 6.0
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by iandavidsmith »

Result

iandavidsmith (Scots Covenanter) 4.3 pts
vs
ggarynorman (New Model Army) pts 1.3 pts

iandavidsmith (Scots Covenanter)

foot 651= 651
horse 61x 2 = 122
deserted 50/ 2 =25
cannon 0 x 50 =0
total men = 6166
score = (651+ 122+ 25+ 0) /6166= 0.129 x 10 =1.3


cavehobbit(French)

foot 1133= 1133
horse 166 x 2 = 332
deserted 1000/ 2 =500
cannon 0 x 50 =0
total men = 4505
score = (1133+ 332+ 500+ 0) /4505= .436 x 10 = 4.3

Thanks for the game ,
Ian
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

Post by iandavidsmith »

Result

fogman (Imperial 19-32) 3.0 pts
vs
iandavidsmith (Protestant 18-31) 5.6 pts


fogman (Imperial 19-32)
foot 2483= 2483
horse 565 x 2 = 1130
deserted 2236/ 2 =1118
cannon 8 x 50 =400
total men = 9065
score = (2483 + 1130 + 1118 + 400) /9065= 0.566 x 10 =5.6


iandavidsmith (Protestant 18-31)
foot 1458= 1458
horse 382 x 2 = 764
deserted 154 / 2 =77
cannon 8 x 50 =400
total men = 9023
score = (1458 + 764 + 77 + 400) /9023= .299 x 10 = 3.0

Great game,
Ian
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Results

jomni = 8.2 ---> 6.0
vs
iandavidsmith = 3.1

jomni
foot 671= 671
horse 538 x 2 = 1076
deserted 81/ 2 =40.5
cannon 2 x 50 =100
total men = 5984
score = (671 + 1076 + 40.5 + 100) /5984= 0.31 x 10 =3.1

iandavidsmith
foot 1895= 1895
horse 378 x 2 = 756
deserted 1405 / 2 =702.5
cannon 28 x 50 =1400
total men = 5780
score = (1895 + 756 + 702.5 + 1400) /5780 = .82 x 10 = 8.2

Gun losses seem to be a bit excessive. Did I calculate the points correclty?
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Results

jomni = 1.9
vs
pantherboy = 5.3

jomni
foot 886= 886
horse 260 x 2 = 520
deserted 1082/ 2 =541
cannon 10 x 50 =500
total men = 4610
score = (886 + 520 + 541 + 500) /4610= 0.53 x 10 = 5.3

pantherboy
foot 613= 613
horse 86 x 2 = 172
deserted 59 / 2 =29.5
cannon 0 x 50 =0
total men = 5641
score = (613 + 172 + 29.5 + 0) /5641 = .19 x 10 = 1.9
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Re: LORDS OF PIKE & SHOT 1

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Results

jomni = 2.4
vs
fogman = 4.1

jomni
foot 1017= 1017
horse 302 x 2 = 604
deserted 1505/ 2 =752.5
cannon 0 x 50 =0
total men = 5756
score = (1017 + 604 + 752.5 + 0) /5756= 0.41 x 10 = 4.1

fogman
foot 911= 911
horse 89 x 2 = 178
deserted 52 / 2 =26
cannon 0 x 50 =0
total men = 4506
score = (911 + 178 + 26 + 0) /4506 = .24 x 10 = 2.4
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