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) and of course I got destroyed by PB and eric; but well I take it as a chance maybe to learn from defeats.....
What about the gee-gees? The Grand National and Derby in the UK?davouthojo wrote: However, you wouldn't handicap the Masters or the Ryder Cup.
And the use of salary caps to regulate competition in many American sports and some parts of European rugby union?
That is a perfectly reasonable point of view, Anders.hidde wrote:That been said, I've been thinking about the handicap thing and how useful can it really be?
There aren't more than two players that really stands out and that's PB and eric.
A handful more could be considered...well, top players; davothojo, ianiow, CheAhn, Lysimachos(if he still is playing), deeter, batesmotel, me. Forgetting someone?
I'm not against a handicap system that could be used in friendlies and smaller tournaments.
It may be that a handicapping system may only be acceptable for the smaller tournaments.If I can just clarify my ideas a bit if hypothetically they were applied to LOEG - first of all Divisions "B" and "C" would be completely unaffected; secondly the only matches affected in Division "A" would be between those with a LOEG rating of over 7.50 and those with a rating under 5.00 (this would amount to around 10% of the fixtures in Division "A", although it would vary a bit depending on who made up these divisions); thirdly, players who were entitled to claim the handicap would not be forced to; fourthly, there are only two players over 7.50 a the moment, another player is not too far off from this threshold; and fifthly, there is a structural problem in LOEG (as I perceive it anyway) inasmuch as a number of players are required to play in the "A" divisions even though they have never been good enough to win a "B" division outright (I am one of these players).What I would say to you here, Anders, is to think of all the players who get knocked out in the first round of tournaments or who regularly end up third and fourth from bottom in our leagues. They are just as important to a competition as those who grace its final stages. I just think it would be good to run some tournaments during the course of the year where they do have a bit more chance to make an impact on events. How many players have drifted away from FOG because they have habitually found themselves outmatched? How many players do not even enter tournaments because they feel they will be completely outclassed? My guess is that there are quite a few people like this. And just because a player receives a handicap it doesn't mean that it will be easy for them to win - they will still have to play very well. But one of the differences will be that if they are drawn against one of the top players then at least they will feel they have a fighting chance in the match. I lost my game to Eric yesterday attacking his line, not cowering in the corner waiting for the inevitable end as I continually end up doing in LOEG.If someone was to launch a bigger one like Lysimachos' Challenger, petes' K-O or CC I wouldn't participate if handicap was part of the deal.
Take K-O for example; there the players could chose any list throughout every book. That means any player could end up with any kind of
bad match-up. Then there is the map. If I was handicaped and both these two factors went against me I wouldn't feel fairly treated
There are other ways too. Have a list of aviable armies and let the player chose based on ranking. Or, like the Iberian tourny, dole out the armies based
on the skill of the players.In short, could be good for practice and occasional, smaller tournaments.
I actually made this decision back at Xmas and I told Steve then. Two reasons really - the issue we have been talking about in this thread and the fact that "Eternal Empire" had been put with "Storm of Arrows" which meant that my Anglo-Irish army had to embark on an east European tour.And pete, you wrote you won't enter LoEG in the future. Can I say to you as I did eric...think it through.
As you know, I am much more interested in historical match-ups. I didn't really enjoy LOEG Season 7 at all. So I definitely won't be entering Season 8, but I may enter Season 9 if there are two medieval sections as has been suggested elsewhere; Western Europe 1100-1500 and Eastern Europe and beyond 1100-1500. I will carry on doing the ratings and I will give whatever other assistance is required of me to help run the competition - I am certainly not throwing all my toys out of the pram. Yes OK, Eric.ericdoman1 wrote:Ok I will come back. Just based on the fact that I am helping a few players improve their game and or get to know it better and I get a good feeling from that. That is if it's OK with you Pete.
ianiow (the Demi-god) wishes to thank Sir Pete of Stockwell for his kind invitation and indeed likes the idea of this handicapped tourney. But alas he had grown weary of war and bloodshed after the gruelling league season and will be resting his sword arm for the time being.ericdoman1 wrote:IanIOW a peasant. Nay, a noble, never, a King, Emperor, you are having a laugh. A demi god morelike.
Bloody nobles! Only they would stoop so low! Maybe one day the peasants will rise up!! 
Lol, Sharkall is not the one to beat around the bush!I helped him during the game but I ended up losing.
