Is it legal to detach shots from 4 units of 4 shots and 2 pikes each like these?
1) 3 units of 7 bases each; 1 unit of 3 shots bases
or
2) 1 unit of 18 bases; 3 units of 3 shots each
Yes, I know they are very strange formations, but is just to understand how it works...
detached shot strange formation
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Moro wrote:The army has the same number of BG (4).
The question is if they can have a odd number of bases...
See Appendix I at the back of each army list book for details.
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you can only detach two shot stands from each pike and shot BG and they can be combined as 1 BG of 4 shot and 4 pike and 1 BG as 4 shot. Only 1/2 of your battle groups can be combined. so if you have 4 BG's only 2 of them can combine into the larger pike and shot and shot only BG's.
Odd numbers are not allowed unless it specifies in the army list they can have 3 bases for example.
Page 182-183 of the rule book covers detached shot.
Odd numbers are not allowed unless it specifies in the army list they can have 3 bases for example.
Page 182-183 of the rule book covers detached shot.
If you have 8 or 9 pike and shot BGs then you can select 4 for detachments. The procedure is to create new Shot groups and then combine the old BGs as needed to meet the requirements. You can detach all of the Shot from a BG. With 4 standard PS BGs and thus 16 Shot and 8 Pike to play with you could have
3 pure Shot BGs and one pure Pike BG, such as
8 Shot 6 Shot 2 Shot 8 Pike (which since all Shot is detached can go deep as a Keil)
or pure Shot BGs and 2 Pure Pike BGs, such as
8 Shot 8 Shot 4 Pike 4 Pike
or something other mix of pure formations,
or have some composite PS BGs as in the example on page 183 with 2x4 Shot and 2x(4 Shot +4 Pike (2 deep)).
or "something completely different"
8 Shot
4 Shot
4 Shot + 4 Pike (2 deep)
4 Pike (which can go 4 deep)
I suppose you could get to a BG with 6 Shot and 6 Pike, but this would seem quite impractical, as the Pikes per page 33 wouild be a block 2 deep and 3 wide with a file of Shot 3 deep on each wing - that 3rd Shot can only fill in for losses - a b@$tardized wannabe Late Tercio.
Starting with tercios of course gives you some other options.
3 pure Shot BGs and one pure Pike BG, such as
8 Shot 6 Shot 2 Shot 8 Pike (which since all Shot is detached can go deep as a Keil)
or pure Shot BGs and 2 Pure Pike BGs, such as
8 Shot 8 Shot 4 Pike 4 Pike
or something other mix of pure formations,
or have some composite PS BGs as in the example on page 183 with 2x4 Shot and 2x(4 Shot +4 Pike (2 deep)).
or "something completely different"
8 Shot
4 Shot
4 Shot + 4 Pike (2 deep)
4 Pike (which can go 4 deep)
I suppose you could get to a BG with 6 Shot and 6 Pike, but this would seem quite impractical, as the Pikes per page 33 wouild be a block 2 deep and 3 wide with a file of Shot 3 deep on each wing - that 3rd Shot can only fill in for losses - a b@$tardized wannabe Late Tercio.
Starting with tercios of course gives you some other options.