Might be an idea to put the Italian subs in pos south of Greece to catch fleeing transports, no point for the Allies standing and dying against superior teched Axis troops at this point, no Athens=no supply. All that juicy mountain territory in Greece should be dandy for generating some partisans as well if you leave it unoccupied.Plaid (axis) vs Supermax (allies) [no Supermax pls]
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trulster
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Liberating Greece should provide a nice boost of 4 (?) PPs per turn, almost as good as Stalingrad Might be an idea to put the Italian subs in pos south of Greece to catch fleeing transports, no point for the Allies standing and dying against superior teched Axis troops at this point, no Athens=no supply. All that juicy mountain territory in Greece should be dandy for generating some partisans as well if you leave it unoccupied.
Might be an idea to put the Italian subs in pos south of Greece to catch fleeing transports, no point for the Allies standing and dying against superior teched Axis troops at this point, no Athens=no supply. All that juicy mountain territory in Greece should be dandy for generating some partisans as well if you leave it unoccupied.
Well, Greece entered the war as Axis country, so i don't know, will it provide nominal 4 PPs now, or only 2, as occupied territory.trulster wrote:Liberating Greece should provide a nice boost of 4 (?) PPs per turn, almost as good as Stalingrad
But I am absolutely sure, that Stalingrad provides only 1/2 of nominal, since it is soviet. Anyway its 1 rail cap and -5 to Max's income.
Axis turn 61
Last december turn of '42.
Soviet troops launched minor offencive last turn (it was fair weather), reducing one of my corps to 4 steps, and another (by the way - I Korps, old guard) - to seven.
Seven steps one was repaired, while 4 steps replaced with fresh one.
SW started at the end of my turn, and now soviets have this depleted units in contact with my line. It means, that they have to shift some full strength second line units to the frontline, and its quite hard maneur with this compact formation and bad SW weather. It all, aswell as good entrenchement, organisation and entrenchment of my troops supposed to be enough to stand against initial soviet winter offencive strike (in 1-2 turns my units will regain effectivenes back to maximum and further attacks will be pretty suicidal for red army, but now axis will have hard times).
Southern sector - looks pretty safe. AGS assault troops near Stalingrad stuck in SW deep snow (and unable to rail) - infantry have only 1 hex move range, for example.
Guderian's veterans of russian campaigns easily managed to destroy british corps in athens, while american one is now trapped.
Armour managed to escape though. All what allies achieved in these Greek campaign - Ploesti damaged for couple of turns, Greece occupied by axis and massive casualties.
Max deffinetely should launch this invasion at any other time, but late autumn, when I had troops (and lots of fighters) freed from the east. It really didn't even ruined any axis strategic plans.
My subs are still repairing and upgrading in French ports (allied fighters and SACs are trying to bomb ports, so work is quite slow).
Some subs were finally ready and sent into seas (seen on mini map).
Recent succes in Russia finally canceled my plans for '43 Sealion (well, few turns ago I thought that Russian front is everywhere just as good, as at Moscow, and I stuck in Russia - so its time to grab initiative somewhere else). Now I will aim for total victory over soviet union, and I will concentrate both german and italian effort there. Following this idea, both german naval labs were immediately sold - some PPs were spent on repairs and upgrades, rest saved to purchase infantry + armour labs next turn.
No units were purchased for germans or italians this turn, I am getting into yellow manpower deeper and deeper, even without massive recruitment.
Soviet troops launched minor offencive last turn (it was fair weather), reducing one of my corps to 4 steps, and another (by the way - I Korps, old guard) - to seven.
Seven steps one was repaired, while 4 steps replaced with fresh one.
SW started at the end of my turn, and now soviets have this depleted units in contact with my line. It means, that they have to shift some full strength second line units to the frontline, and its quite hard maneur with this compact formation and bad SW weather. It all, aswell as good entrenchement, organisation and entrenchment of my troops supposed to be enough to stand against initial soviet winter offencive strike (in 1-2 turns my units will regain effectivenes back to maximum and further attacks will be pretty suicidal for red army, but now axis will have hard times).
Southern sector - looks pretty safe. AGS assault troops near Stalingrad stuck in SW deep snow (and unable to rail) - infantry have only 1 hex move range, for example.
Guderian's veterans of russian campaigns easily managed to destroy british corps in athens, while american one is now trapped.
Armour managed to escape though. All what allies achieved in these Greek campaign - Ploesti damaged for couple of turns, Greece occupied by axis and massive casualties.
Max deffinetely should launch this invasion at any other time, but late autumn, when I had troops (and lots of fighters) freed from the east. It really didn't even ruined any axis strategic plans.
My subs are still repairing and upgrading in French ports (allied fighters and SACs are trying to bomb ports, so work is quite slow).
Some subs were finally ready and sent into seas (seen on mini map).
Recent succes in Russia finally canceled my plans for '43 Sealion (well, few turns ago I thought that Russian front is everywhere just as good, as at Moscow, and I stuck in Russia - so its time to grab initiative somewhere else). Now I will aim for total victory over soviet union, and I will concentrate both german and italian effort there. Following this idea, both german naval labs were immediately sold - some PPs were spent on repairs and upgrades, rest saved to purchase infantry + armour labs next turn.
No units were purchased for germans or italians this turn, I am getting into yellow manpower deeper and deeper, even without massive recruitment.
Plaid
Congrats on a good effort so far.
I don't think you should underestimate your opponent though, he attacked Greece so he could bomb the oil and he can still go back to the island airstrips.
You also now have a very big front and manpower issues to manage, I think this game will be decided very much on you making the right transition to defence.
cheers
Congrats on a good effort so far.
I don't think you should underestimate your opponent though, he attacked Greece so he could bomb the oil and he can still go back to the island airstrips.
You also now have a very big front and manpower issues to manage, I think this game will be decided very much on you making the right transition to defence.
cheers
Axis turn 62
Electricity turned off just the time, when I was saving screenshots, so I lost most of them.
In Russia Red Army attacked my positions, destroying fresh corps, which I placed to front last turn. Also mech was damaged to 4 steps. Soviet casualties also pretty high. With help of some reserves front was mended, german units now have organisation close to 70, which is even to soviet one, i suppose soviet offencive to stop soon. 3 TAC bombers were rebased from southern Russia and 3 fighters were also railed from Greece to help to stop russians there.
No action in the MED, but I spotted in Italy british MECH finally with some upgrades. Also my fighter spotted, that Crete have no garrison - only BB in port.
In southern atlantic my subs intercepted convoy in its origin point.
Germans built infantry and armour labs this turn, just as planned. Also I purchased 1 infantry corps to replace casualties.
Italians built 4th infantry one.
Casualties screen
Axis casualties are still pretty light compared to allied ones (german tank casualties are pretty high though).
German PP income is 167, which is deffinetely higher, than USSR has now. As soon as soviet offencive will be stopped, I will fully concentrate on producing mech infantry for eastern '43 offencive.
In Russia Red Army attacked my positions, destroying fresh corps, which I placed to front last turn. Also mech was damaged to 4 steps. Soviet casualties also pretty high. With help of some reserves front was mended, german units now have organisation close to 70, which is even to soviet one, i suppose soviet offencive to stop soon. 3 TAC bombers were rebased from southern Russia and 3 fighters were also railed from Greece to help to stop russians there.
No action in the MED, but I spotted in Italy british MECH finally with some upgrades. Also my fighter spotted, that Crete have no garrison - only BB in port.
In southern atlantic my subs intercepted convoy in its origin point.
Germans built infantry and armour labs this turn, just as planned. Also I purchased 1 infantry corps to replace casualties.
Italians built 4th infantry one.
Casualties screen
Axis casualties are still pretty light compared to allied ones (german tank casualties are pretty high though).
German PP income is 167, which is deffinetely higher, than USSR has now. As soon as soviet offencive will be stopped, I will fully concentrate on producing mech infantry for eastern '43 offencive.
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trulster
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Re: Axis turn 62
Then why not ship a garrison nw of the capital, surround it with subs to protect against Allied naval strikes (probably max 1 air unit in range to hit it?), and you are guaranteed to retake Crete and its 1 PP a turn.Plaid wrote: No action in the MED, but I spotted in Italy british MECH finally with some upgrades. Also my fighter spotted, that Crete have no garrison - only BB in port.
Axis turn 63
Soviet offencive continues. This turn my 8 steps mech was finished off, also I lost 1 infantry.
With help of fresh redeployed airforce I destroyed lots of soviet air steps (bombers are in range of my fighters). Soviet fighters tryed to intercept, but I had combat results well in my favour (I think its because Max uses low steps fighters, and even though they have better attack at winter, then my, my ones roll 2 times more dice). 1 soviet fighter got sort of 2 : 5 results and was totally destroyed with 2nd attack. Also soviet infantry corps was destroyed, securing river line.
In southern Russia nothing happens. Soviet front just ends north of stalingrad. Its very dangerous formation for Russians, since I can attack it from behing easily.
Now Egyptian(!) garrison arrived to defend Crete.
My subs finished off allied 44 PP convoy in southern atlantic, also soviet convoy ran into my sub near Norway at the end of my turn.
Allied ships and plains are active, troubling my sub repairs in French ports. Subs are rebased further to the east.
Bombing of germany continues, this turn i reinforced my luftflotte Reich with 3rd fighter (I also have Kleist's HQ in Berlin).
This turn german PPs were spent on 2 mech corps, italians were used to buy infantry corps. I am planning to deploy numerous italian corps on the eastern front for my summer offencive.
With help of fresh redeployed airforce I destroyed lots of soviet air steps (bombers are in range of my fighters). Soviet fighters tryed to intercept, but I had combat results well in my favour (I think its because Max uses low steps fighters, and even though they have better attack at winter, then my, my ones roll 2 times more dice). 1 soviet fighter got sort of 2 : 5 results and was totally destroyed with 2nd attack. Also soviet infantry corps was destroyed, securing river line.
In southern Russia nothing happens. Soviet front just ends north of stalingrad. Its very dangerous formation for Russians, since I can attack it from behing easily.
Now Egyptian(!) garrison arrived to defend Crete.
I was planning to do it, but I didn't have this many subs in Greece region, and now island is garrisoned.trulster wrote:Then why not ship a garrison nw of the capital, surround it with subs to protect against Allied naval strikes (probably max 1 air unit in range to hit it?), and you are guaranteed to retake Crete and its 1 PP a turn.Plaid wrote: No action in the MED, but I spotted in Italy british MECH finally with some upgrades. Also my fighter spotted, that Crete have no garrison - only BB in port.
My subs finished off allied 44 PP convoy in southern atlantic, also soviet convoy ran into my sub near Norway at the end of my turn.
Allied ships and plains are active, troubling my sub repairs in French ports. Subs are rebased further to the east.
Bombing of germany continues, this turn i reinforced my luftflotte Reich with 3rd fighter (I also have Kleist's HQ in Berlin).
This turn german PPs were spent on 2 mech corps, italians were used to buy infantry corps. I am planning to deploy numerous italian corps on the eastern front for my summer offencive.
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It certainly looks like the summer of 43 will be very painful for the Soviets, should be able to destroy dozens of units. And with the Allied waste of PPs in Greece it seems US/Brits are no immediate danger to stop an Eastern smash come summer.
With all these ops going on though, Axis oil may soon be a concern, even if you grab the Grozny field!
With all these ops going on though, Axis oil may soon be a concern, even if you grab the Grozny field!
Axis turn 64
Soviet offencive almost stopped - they only managed to finish off my I Korps, and it was costly, looking at all this damaged armour. My fighters drived soviet bombers somewhere away, so they had no air support. Also I finally spotted some infatry upgrades and very strange - its artillery lvl 3. I have only 87% of it ready now, but with 4 labs should be 1-2 turns.
In southern Russia upgraded infantry also spotted. Looks like red army prepairs defence line along mountains. But I don't want to attack them and they can't rail. Good good. May be they want to attack me, but this troops look harmless without air support and commander even.
My subs attacked soviet convoy. Sure I will suffer some damage from allied strategic bombers, but 50+ convoy lost more then half PPs carried.
Allies drived my subs from french and holland bases - now I have to repair in denmark and further to the east, but I don't care.
Maybe it is a sign of some invasion in France, coming soon, but it can't be serious with all this naval and air units built by allies. Anyway some good reserves would probably be deployed in France (armour + mech + couple inf) sooner or later.
Two more mechs were queued this turn for wehrmacht needs.
In southern Russia upgraded infantry also spotted. Looks like red army prepairs defence line along mountains. But I don't want to attack them and they can't rail. Good good. May be they want to attack me, but this troops look harmless without air support and commander even.
My subs attacked soviet convoy. Sure I will suffer some damage from allied strategic bombers, but 50+ convoy lost more then half PPs carried.
Allies drived my subs from french and holland bases - now I have to repair in denmark and further to the east, but I don't care.
Maybe it is a sign of some invasion in France, coming soon, but it can't be serious with all this naval and air units built by allies. Anyway some good reserves would probably be deployed in France (armour + mech + couple inf) sooner or later.
Two more mechs were queued this turn for wehrmacht needs.
About oil - I afraid to use panzers a lot on the east since soviet armour have huge AT(upgraded to Tigers this turn by the way, much better then soviet armour in all ways but AT), so probably it will slow my oil burning rate. I am switching to less consuming mechs now.trulster wrote:It certainly looks like the summer of 43 will be very painful for the Soviets, should be able to destroy dozens of units. And with the Allied waste of PPs in Greece it seems US/Brits are no immediate danger to stop an Eastern smash come summer.
With all these ops going on though, Axis oil may soon be a concern, even if you grab the Grozny field!
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As far as I can see, there is 1 british TAC in england and 1 US one in africa. Most airforce are SACs, pretty useless against armour. Also if invasion happens, luftflotte Reich will be used to support my ground forces, since it can't stop allied bombing campaign anyway.schwerpunkt wrote:I'm not sure what tech the allied planes are at but the MECHs will be useful in the west if you dont have any FTR cover - even Tigers can be badly hit by TACs if they have good AT tech.
Axis turn 65
In central sector russians retreat back to Moscow, while looks like this troops north-west of Kalinin don't mind to be pocketed.
In MED RN BB came to supply american infantry. I supposed it to be covered with SUB (and it is) but I still blocked it with my own sub.
Italians laucned attack to cut off allied supply one more time.
In central atlantic large and heavily escorted british convoy spotted. No chance, I let it go.
Allies use CVs widely in their bombing campaign, Ruhr region will soon be all red. My 3 fighters do some constant damage to allied bombers, but they can't stop bombing itself - bombers have quite high surv. Probably if I deploy lets say 10 fighters ( in fact I have 9 total), allies can be cripled, but I think its better to build some ground troops and conquer on the east what they destroyed on the west.
This turn I got last 6 level of dog fight tech (and switched air labs to close support at once), most of my fighters were upgraded. Remaining PPs were saved, because I will get some infantry techs next turn almost for sure.
In MED RN BB came to supply american infantry. I supposed it to be covered with SUB (and it is) but I still blocked it with my own sub.
Italians laucned attack to cut off allied supply one more time.
In central atlantic large and heavily escorted british convoy spotted. No chance, I let it go.
Allies use CVs widely in their bombing campaign, Ruhr region will soon be all red. My 3 fighters do some constant damage to allied bombers, but they can't stop bombing itself - bombers have quite high surv. Probably if I deploy lets say 10 fighters ( in fact I have 9 total), allies can be cripled, but I think its better to build some ground troops and conquer on the east what they destroyed on the west.
This turn I got last 6 level of dog fight tech (and switched air labs to close support at once), most of my fighters were upgraded. Remaining PPs were saved, because I will get some infantry techs next turn almost for sure.
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Plaid,
I noticed that your oil is down to 363, which would normally make me cautious about doing an eastern 1943 offensive. You're going to have to keep enough to fend off the allied airforce in 1943 and 1944. How extensive do you see your eastern offensive will be? I'd be very reluctant to move any ARM as the MECHs and TACs will use up enough....
I noticed that your oil is down to 363, which would normally make me cautious about doing an eastern 1943 offensive. You're going to have to keep enough to fend off the allied airforce in 1943 and 1944. How extensive do you see your eastern offensive will be? I'd be very reluctant to move any ARM as the MECHs and TACs will use up enough....
I don't care of oil much , as long as I have any. First it makes opponent to think that I have lots and lots, and secondary - stack is pretty high. (in some games I come close to 0 in '42 summer, while in this one I didn't). Also Grozny 3 points field will be secured as soon, as good weather arrive. And even if I have 20 oil points defecite per turn this 363 is enough for 15-18 turns of fully agressive warfare, that can cause major damage to soviet union.schwerpunkt wrote:Plaid,
I noticed that your oil is down to 363, which would normally make me cautious about doing an eastern 1943 offensive. You're going to have to keep enough to fend off the allied airforce in 1943 and 1944. How extensive do you see your eastern offensive will be? I'd be very reluctant to move any ARM as the MECHs and TACs will use up enough....
I think what units I shall move and what should not only when I don't have enough oil to move all necessary units.
You could try to base your fighters closer to the coast to get a double hit on the strats - this may force them back away from bombing Germany - they will then need to switch production to fighters - this will give you a little breathing space.
You should have fighter tech advantage and if he covers with CV's you have better supply and better tech.
I would drive him back (may even rebase a fighter from Italy???).
His fighters cant stand up to you at the moment and his bombers effectivness dont look great.
You should have fighter tech advantage and if he covers with CV's you have better supply and better tech.
I would drive him back (may even rebase a fighter from Italy???).
His fighters cant stand up to you at the moment and his bombers effectivness dont look great.
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good advice, make the most of that tech advantage by inflicting some pain on the Allies while you have it. It won't last forever...afk_nero wrote:You could try to base your fighters closer to the coast to get a double hit on the strats - this may force them back away from bombing Germany - they will then need to switch production to fighters - this will give you a little breathing space.
You should have fighter tech advantage and if he covers with CV's you have better supply and better tech.
I would drive him back (may even rebase a fighter from Italy???).
His fighters cant stand up to you at the moment and his bombers effectivness dont look great.