The Swiss Problem

[TheGrayMouser]

I just have take the decision to do not accept any battle with Swiss in the future.
I hope some change will be done quickly because it's really not a fun situation.

Does this mean you wont use the Florentines that feature a huge amount of Swiss either?
Please note, Im not critising you or anything but many lists allow a lot of Swiss to be bought, not just the Swiss lists...

no I have no problem with army that use Swiss as mercenary. There are not elite and are only a small part of the army.

Well they are the same units(superior) although you are correct that there are lesser #'s of them, however you will also have effective missle units heavy knights etc AND a very powerfull corp of Swiss pikes...
Early German Late Germans, Florentines and I believe Venetians can buy sizable # of Swiss

[krieg63]

Does this mean you wont use the Florentines that feature a huge amount of Swiss either?
Please note, Im not critising you or anything but many lists allow a lot of Swiss to be bought, not just the Swiss lists...

no I have no problem with army that use Swiss as mercenary. There are not elite and are only a small part of the army.

Well they are the same units(superior) although you are correct that there are lesser #'s of them, however you will also have effective missle units heavy knights etc AND a very powerfull corp of Swiss pikes...
Early German Late Germans, Florentines and I believe Venetians can buy sizable # of Swiss

try it and let me know after!

[TheGrayMouser]

Ha Ha, I'm not suggesting I can beat a Swiss army with those lists , but to be honest i havent run across too many of them anyways, I dont use that list myseft but will take as many as i can get in lists that have them!

[deeter]

I take as many Swiss mercenaries as I can get. They're great. It's just that 30+ superior pikes are nearly impossible to beat and require very little thought to win with consistently.

Deeter

[Skanvak]

Swiss can be defeated but that suppose to have lots of terrain and fortification.

If the missile weapons were more efficient there would be no problem.

[Geordietaf]

I don't use the Swiss because I find it too easy to win with them. On my last outing with them I resigned when a couple of points from a massive victory because my opponent had virtually no chance against the ubermensch and I didn't feel comfortable 'winning' so one-sided a contest.

I've noticed that I don't seem to come across Swiss armies any more when I post open DAG challenges. Could it be that other people feel embarrassed to use the Swiss as well?

[batesmotel]

I don't use the Swiss because I find it too easy to win with them. On my last outing with them I resigned when a couple of points from a massive victory because my opponent had virtually no chance against the ubermensch and I didn't feel comfortable 'winning' so one-sided a contest.

I've noticed that I don't seem to come across Swiss armies any more when I post open DAG challenges. Could it be that other people feel embarrassed to use the Swiss as well?

I think a lot of the problem is that Paisley has gone missing. Annoying, since I have an old game against his Swiss with Low Countries(Maximilian) which had developed into a very interesting battle fighting over a mountain in the middle of the map.

Chris

[deeter]

Ditto. I'm still waiting for Paisley's next move. My hill hugging Burgundians are close to beating him. I suspect he lost interest in FoG after numerous easy Swiss victories. Then again, he went missing after your lastest elections. You don't suppose he was a member of the losing party?

Deeter

[Geordietaf]

Possibly he's a Liberal Democrat and is now unexpectedly Deputy Prime Minister.

[deeter]

That's what I suspect given his nick name.

Deeter