modding chassis

[FrancoisPhilidor]

Hi,

I would like to ask if anybody has experience with the modding of chassis files?



1
Do the numbers mean that the maximum movement points will be divided by this number?

2
Is the first road factor unpaved and the second paved road?

3
What influence does "humanoid" have?

4
Why are there two separate files? A txt and a csv?
Do I need to edit both for the mod to work?

Thanks

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[StuccoFresco]

1- yes
2- yes
3- as far as I know, none
4- I only edited the CSV, and so far it worked. there are three CSV files for each climate.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

1- yes
2- yes
3- as far as I know, none
4- I only edited the CSV, and so far it worked. there are three CSV files for each climate.

nice, thanks.
You have already modded it?

[StuccoFresco]

1- yes
2- yes
3- as far as I know, none
4- I only edited the CSV, and so far it worked. there are three CSV files for each climate.

nice, thanks.
You have already modded it?

Yes, the roads' mechanics is a bit wonky but everything works reasonably fine.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

1- yes
2- yes
3- as far as I know, none
4- I only edited the CSV, and so far it worked. there are three CSV files for each climate.

nice, thanks.
You have already modded it?

Yes, the roads' mechanics is a bit wonky but everything works reasonably fine.

Where is your mod? How come I can't find it anywhere?

[StuccoFresco]

It's a total conversion mod, the chassis changes are a tiiiny part of it: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108116

[GabeKnight]

Yes, the roads' mechanics is a bit wonky but everything works reasonably fine.

That's about it. Because of the "0.6" the dirt road system never really worked well with forests.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

It's a total conversion mod, the chassis changes are a tiiiny part of it: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108116

Ah ok nice.

Am I reading correctly you have replaced the models with counters? In your intro. But then the title is now "no counters".
Why would you remove the thing that makes the game a hundred times more attractive than basically all other hex games?

[StuccoFresco]

It's a total conversion mod, the chassis changes are a tiiiny part of it: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108116

Ah ok nice.

Am I reading correctly you have replaced the models with counters? In your intro. But then the title is now "no counters".
Why would you remove the thing that makes the game a hundred times more attractive than basically all other hex games?

The "no counters" is a separate version.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

It's a total conversion mod, the chassis changes are a tiiiny part of it: https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=108116

Ah ok nice.

Am I reading correctly you have replaced the models with counters? In your intro. But then the title is now "no counters".
Why would you remove the thing that makes the game a hundred times more attractive than basically all other hex games?

The "no counters" is a separate version.

Ah ok.

Do you have an overview of all your changes? Would be good to know what to look for. You mentioned more realistic movement speeds.

And is your mod compatible for multiplayer?

[StuccoFresco]

Ah ok.

Do you have an overview of all your changes? Would be good to know what to look for. You mentioned more realistic movement speeds.

And is your mod compatible for multiplayer?

There's a link to the full manual and a short-ish description in the first post of the linked thread.

The speeds have been adjusted to the scale of the mod, they are "realistic" in the sense that motorized, mechanized and armored units are way, way faster than foot units, which isn't so sharp in the base game. But it's a total conversion: it's all rebalanced and fitted for a specific setup. It's basically an almost entirely different game.

There are no multiplayer maps per se: I only crafted single player scenarios and six full campaigns.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

Ah ok.

Do you have an overview of all your changes? Would be good to know what to look for. You mentioned more realistic movement speeds.

And is your mod compatible for multiplayer?

There's a link to the full manual and a short-ish description in the first post of the linked thread.

The speeds have been adjusted to the scale of the mod, they are "realistic" in the sense that motorized, mechanized and armored units are way, way faster than foot units, which isn't so sharp in the base game. But it's a total conversion: it's all rebalanced and fitted for a specific setup. It's basically an almost entirely different game.

There are no multiplayer maps per se: I only crafted single player scenarios and six full campaigns.

I have just read your manual
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qdxrj6ba ... xv42j&dl=0

Very professionally done

Wow didn't know something with so much work in it has been hidden on this forum and I am only seeing it now.

But what have you done to the geography and history of that world haha?

Do you think it's possible to play a multiplayer game if both players have the mod?
Just to try it. Because I can't see myself play a singleplayer game in a fictional world. But for multiplayer the mechanics look really nice.

[StuccoFresco]

Thanks!

Yeah I didn't want to invent new flags so I used the same names and flags in a fictional world and it brings some strange results.

Yes, totally. I tested the factions by playing hotseat with myself and it works nicely. If you are interested I can craft some hotseat scenario with unit purchases and whatnot, I'd be glad to test factions with real opponents!

[FrancoisPhilidor]

Thanks!

Yeah I didn't want to invent new flags so I used the same names and flags in a fictional world and it brings some strange results.

Yes, totally. I tested the factions by playing hotseat with myself and it works nicely. If you are interested I can craft some hotseat scenario with unit purchases and whatnot, I'd be glad to test factions with real opponents!

Yes let's do it, nice. So I just need to download one version right? With or without Nato symbols. Is there any other difference between the two other than the visuals?
And from what I have read in your manual, the models still make sense as unit representations, right? You still have separate infantry, AT guns etc. It's not like every unit is almost the same with all types of arms, like in operational hex games.

[StuccoFresco]

Thanks!

Yeah I didn't want to invent new flags so I used the same names and flags in a fictional world and it brings some strange results.

Yes, totally. I tested the factions by playing hotseat with myself and it works nicely. If you are interested I can craft some hotseat scenario with unit purchases and whatnot, I'd be glad to test factions with real opponents!

Yes let's do it, nice. So I just need to download one version right? With or without Nato symbols. Is there any other difference between the two other than the visuals?
And from what I have read in your manual, the models still make sense as unit representations, right? You still have separate infantry, AT guns etc. It's not like every unit is almost the same with all types of arms, like in operational hex games.

The no-counters version is an older one, I haven't updated it yet, so I'd reccomend the "standard" 3.5 version.

About units, they usually represent mixed formations with a bit of everything their real life counterpart is supposed to have, so an Infantry Regiment would have AT guns inside it, but as far as the game mechanics are concerned, they won't be "Antitank units" with AT capabilities. So in fact there isn't a huge difference with the base game. Infantry is still weak in open terrain if not entrenched, armored units will still be vulnerable in rough terrain and towns/cities, AT/AA/artillery units will be vulnerable to infantry and artillery, and so on.

I suggest you play a scenario to get the hang of the system, there is some novel interaction inside. The dual nature of Support Regiments (you should keep them right behind your first line to get both AA and AT cover), for example. And the usefulness of HQs.

At the moment there is a single multiplayer scenario I used for hotseat tests, and the map is a bit too big to play in a timely manner I can craft a more reasonable one in the meantime you test the system.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

Thanks!

Yeah I didn't want to invent new flags so I used the same names and flags in a fictional world and it brings some strange results.

Yes, totally. I tested the factions by playing hotseat with myself and it works nicely. If you are interested I can craft some hotseat scenario with unit purchases and whatnot, I'd be glad to test factions with real opponents!

Yes let's do it, nice. So I just need to download one version right? With or without Nato symbols. Is there any other difference between the two other than the visuals?
And from what I have read in your manual, the models still make sense as unit representations, right? You still have separate infantry, AT guns etc. It's not like every unit is almost the same with all types of arms, like in operational hex games.

The no-counters version is an older one, I haven't updated it yet, so I'd reccomend the "standard" 3.5 version.

About units, they usually represent mixed formations with a bit of everything their real life counterpart is supposed to have, so an Infantry Regiment would have AT guns inside it, but as far as the game mechanics are concerned, they won't be "Antitank units" with AT capabilities. So in fact there isn't a huge difference with the base game. Infantry is still weak in open terrain if not entrenched, armored units will still be vulnerable in rough terrain and towns/cities, AT/AA/artillery units will be vulnerable to infantry and artillery, and so on.

I suggest you play a scenario to get the hang of the system, there is some novel interaction inside. The dual nature of Support Regiments (you should keep them right behind your first line to get both AA and AT cover), for example. And the usefulness of HQs.

At the moment there is a single multiplayer scenario I used for hotseat tests, and the map is a bit too big to play in a timely manner I can craft a more reasonable one in the meantime you test the system.

Ok I have tried the Fate of Greece 1941 first scenario.
How do I attack those fortifications? Infantry doesn't deal any damage, bombers get quite a lot of damage in return from every ground unit
Do I just need to attack from behind?

But I will have to get used to those symbols. The units in the pictures still represent what they are right? Heavy infantry still works like heavy infantry?

[StuccoFresco]

Ok I have tried the Fate of Greece 1941 first scenario.
How do I attack those fortifications? Infantry doesn't deal any damage, bombers get quite a lot of damage in return from every ground unit
Do I just need to attack from behind?

But I will have to get used to those symbols. The units in the pictures still represent what they are right? Heavy infantry still works like heavy infantry?

Strongpoints are nasty, your best bet is to bring artillery (Heavy Artillery is perfect for this: range 4 and huge attack) into range and wear them down. Even just lowering their proficiency would give your Assault Brigades the opportunity to crush them. In my AAR ( https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116252 ) I shelled them with Heavy Artillery for 2 turns. When softened up, Mechanized Regiments are enough to start demolishing them. However, I only take them on if they sit on an objective or somewhere I have to pass through. As in real life, it's better to bypass them with maneuvers.

Yes, most symbols show what to expect: the only dubious symbol is the one for Support Battalions because it's AA and AT combined.

Heavy Infantry is indeed strong in defense, good in rough terrain, but vulnerable against armored troops. And so on.

Cavalry in the game is heavily mechanized, think of them of something more akin to a light armored units: light tanks, better mobility in rough terrain, still very strong in open terrain. Since it's a Brigade, its sheer size will give it an advantage against Armored Regiments despite using "inferior" tanks. It's also very fast and can split its movement in two phases, it's VERY useful for advancing.

Assault Brigades (like the Italian ones) have lots of Assault Guns and artillery: slower but hard-hitting. Perfect for breaching enemy lines.

[FrancoisPhilidor]

Ok I have tried the Fate of Greece 1941 first scenario.
How do I attack those fortifications? Infantry doesn't deal any damage, bombers get quite a lot of damage in return from every ground unit
Do I just need to attack from behind?

But I will have to get used to those symbols. The units in the pictures still represent what they are right? Heavy infantry still works like heavy infantry?

Strongpoints are nasty, your best bet is to bring artillery (Heavy Artillery is perfect for this: range 4 and huge attack) into range and wear them down. Even just lowering their proficiency would give your Assault Brigades the opportunity to crush them. In my AAR ( https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=116252 ) I shelled them with Heavy Artillery for 2 turns. When softened up, Mechanized Regiments are enough to start demolishing them. However, I only take them on if they sit on an objective or somewhere I have to pass through. As in real life, it's better to bypass them with maneuvers.

Yes, most symbols show what to expect: the only dubious symbol is the one for Support Battalions because it's AA and AT combined.

Heavy Infantry is indeed strong in defense, good in rough terrain, but vulnerable against armored troops. And so on.

Cavalry in the game is heavily mechanized, think of them of something more akin to a light armored units: light tanks, better mobility in rough terrain, still very strong in open terrain. Since it's a Brigade, its sheer size will give it an advantage against Armored Regiments despite using "inferior" tanks. It's also very fast and can split its movement in two phases, it's VERY useful for advancing.

Assault Brigades (like the Italian ones) have lots of Assault Guns and artillery: slower but hard-hitting. Perfect for breaching enemy lines.

Sounds good. Would be a shame not to try it in multiplayer. Let me know when you want to play